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01-23-2008, 07:47 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
I'll give Dunleavy this: He cares. He's an average coach, and maybe isn't the personality we want on the sideline, but he does care about the team. He has no sense of how to motivate the team. That's a huge problem, but he wants to win any way he can, even if that means making roster changes. Dunleavy really showed me something here. I'm still not a huge fan, but at least we know he cares.
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01-23-2008, 09:46 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
i wonder if the terry/maggette trade is still on the table?....i would take it if i were the clips
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01-23-2008, 10:13 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
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Originally Posted by hutcht02
I'll give Dunleavy this: He cares. He's an average coach, and maybe isn't the personality we want on the sideline, but he does care about the team. He has no sense of how to motivate the team. That's a huge problem, but he wants to win any way he can, even if that means making roster changes. Dunleavy really showed me something here. I'm still not a huge fan, but at least we know he cares.
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I agree fully here. Dunleavy WANTS to be here, unlike some previous coaches that made any sort of change. I remember we let Brown go because he wanted to go elsewhere.
As much as many dislike Dunleavy, the fact is that the guy WANTS to win and he wants to do it with the Clippers.
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01-24-2008, 06:17 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Maggette for Terry is a bad trade no matter how you look at it. Of course we need a guard, but Dunleavy & Baylor screwed up every single chance they've had over the past couple of years to gather together a younger pair of backup guards that can play after Cassell & Mobley get too old, instead they've been stock-piling small forwards & old scrubs. Trading Maggette away for a guard with a horrible contract is just putting on a band-aid to cover up their **** up.
I totally agree with Sterling nixing that trade, and i will agree again when he fires Dunleavy (and hopefully sends Baylor into retirement as well). You guys need to get out of that loser mentality we've had forever... just cuz Dunleavy "wants" to be here (ignoring the fact that he gets paid more with the clips than ANYWHERE else) is no reason to keep the guy as our long term coach. It's like being stuck in a bad relationship that you can't bring yourself to leave, time to cut it off and move on to greener pastures.
Hopefully we'll manage to make a decent trade with one of our assets, who knows maybe Kaman is tradeable now even with his contract. How about that old Pau Gasol for Kaman + Maggette idea? I really don't wanna find out if Kaman will regress or not with Brand back.
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01-24-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
I wouldnt mind terry on this team at all. For a number of reasons. First and foremost being, were stuck with dunleavvy, and we know maggette is NOT a dunleavvy guy, dun cant get the most out of him, whereas terry IS a dunleavvy type guy. Second, it doesnt matter much, since were loosing maggette after this year, and if brand DOESNT opt out, we literally loose maggette for nothing, since him coming off of the books doesnt give us cap space to work with since were so far over the cap.
Terry can start for us no problem at PG the next couple of years. Hopefully thornton will have developed enough by next year that he can provide a lot of SF minutes, so that statistically maggette's loss will not be felt that bad.
Kaman is probably the only untouchable guy on the roster at this point in time. Brand, if he comes back will be a big waste as he will eat into about 30% of kamans output this year. I wish we had an athletic kind of PF here who could play inside outside a la Josh smith, or even a younger guy like sean williams. Then wed be getting the most out of kaman.
Next year i have no idea what we will do with the PG position. Most likely draft. The terry for maggette deal would have been good. Shame on sterling for nixing it. I like about 10% of the moves dunleavvy has made lately, but imagine if what he wanted happened. We would have had terry starting, Cassell with some backup minutes, and still have a starter quality PG on the roster in udrih. Wed have kept patterson i imagine, and overall would have had a solid team. Granted, not a team that could have gotten into the playoffs, but still much better than this team.
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01-24-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...035,full.story
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Late Wednesday, after the Clippers' 111-85 victory over the Sacramento Kings, Mike Dunleavy told The Times that team President Andy Roeser had instructed him to say publicly that the coach had patched up his differences with owner Donald T. Sterling, even though the two hadn't spoken.
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Meanwhile, Sterling is said to still be upset with Dunleavy's comments about replacing him as coach.
Sterling left his courtside seat Wednesday at the start of the third quarter, angry that Dunleavy was playing Quinton Ross, who has missed his last 19 shots, instead of rookie Al Thornton, who had a strong second quarter.
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Dunleavy said Thursday he regretted firing back at his owner through the media. "If it happens again, there won't be a response from me about it," he said.
He has no idea, though, when he would talk to Sterling. "It's kind of up to them," Dunleavy said. "I haven't talked to him. I haven't gotten a chance to talk to him."
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01-24-2008, 10:52 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
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hmmm ... looks like Dunleavy will be out of here sooner rather than later AND he is giving DTS plenty of ammo to fire him and meet him in court. None of us know the terms of Dunleavy's contract, but didn't Cuban fire Nelson who has been suing Cuban for the remaining money on his contract for years????
DTS is a successful NEGOTIATOR to be in the property management business ... knows 'the art of the deal' and will not allow Dunleavy to defeat him and to continue to make a fool of him for giving him that contract. Dunleavy has let his ego get the best of him up against the wrong person this time, which is why he is trying 'damage control now'.
DTS vs DUMBO will be the next 'case of the century'. STAY TUNED ... the locker room WILL be aired.
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01-25-2008, 02:08 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Brand, Livingston out davis out,
Cassell 26 total games
Mobley, Maggette, and Kaman aren't going to drag the Clippers into the playoffs. What does Sterling or Dunleavy expect? Sterling could have had Maggette locked up if he loved him so much.
Sterling is flustrated because he finally dusted off his wallet and pulled out a bill. He is wrong for criticizing the team or the coach. They dont have enough to win right now. No terry trade would chnage that either.
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01-28-2008, 02:14 AM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Dunleavy is fine as a coach. Isn't it the job of the General Manager and other assistants that scope out potential players or prospects for a rebuilding team? Owner Sterling is just being a crybaby or having a hissy fit because his team didn't make the playoffs in 2006-7.
Clippers only Lost 4-3 to the suns in semi finals in 2005-06 season.
Overall I think Dunleavy has done a great job improving the Clippers every year since the 2004-05 season (Dunleavy started in 2003-04).
I'm a Blazer fan looking in and we have haven't seen the playoffs since 2002-03 season.
Dunleavy was fired by the Portland staff, even though he had great sucess with the team. Lots of Blazer fans are mad about Dunleavy being let go.
Your owner is just having a cow because of the loss/win ratio. The owner should be looking at the grand of things and getting his GM to do more work such as getting team chemistry as the priority.
Because of right now, Portland's chemistry of players (not attitude) is making the team fight for each other producing wins. Yeah, Portlands bench doesn't have all-stars right now but everyone on that bench is scoring and contributing.
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01-28-2008, 05:50 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3219495
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A source close to Cassell, however, said Clippers owner Donald Sterling is dead set against trading Cassell or offering him a buyout because he still believes the Clippers are capable of making the playoffs.
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Sterling is official nuts if this is true.
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01-28-2008, 08:07 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
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Originally Posted by nbanoitall
Brand, Livingston out davis out,
Cassell 26 total games
Mobley, Maggette, and Kaman aren't going to drag the Clippers into the playoffs. What does Sterling or Dunleavy expect? Sterling could have had Maggette locked up if he loved him so much.
Sterling is flustrated because he finally dusted off his wallet and pulled out a bill. He is wrong for criticizing the team or the coach. They dont have enough to win right now. No terry trade would chnage that either.
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Thank you. We need more voices of reason like yours.
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01-29-2008, 05:20 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Well im going to give sterling the benefit of the doubt. What happens when you put someone on the trading block? Their value plummets, people know the guy is going to be dealt. Look at stodamire. At first he was rumored to be on the block, so everyone was like, im not going to give anything up for him...he will eventually be bought out. And sure enough, memphis cant find any takers, and so just bought him out.
Heck, the best PG in the league cant even fetch any decent offers. So sterling im assuming is doing the smart thing. He says the opposite: "no way am i trading cassell." So, if anyone wants him, teams have to come knocking with offers.
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01-31-2008, 02:35 AM
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