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ElMarroAfamado · 03-12-2008, 08:59 PM

once again, I REPEAT, i welcome all these moves, id rather have these kinda moves than none at all....
and i say they play him ALOT, see if he is worth keeping after this season....id go
smush/dan/brevin
OR
dan/smush/brevin

eh brevin doesnt cut it for me

hutcht02 · 03-12-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by leidout

Different types of fans, just because we don't have the same outlook as you doesn't mean we're any "less" of clipper fans.

Fairweather fans simply disappear during the rough times, real fans stick it out for better or worse, all of us here are still talking & complaining about all this because we are the real fans.

I was referring to the posts people have put up talking about how they're leaving and how they can't take it anymore. No more blaming the players, front office, or coaching staff. You're either here because you want to be, and happy to cheer on whatever Clippers team is on the court, or we don't want you. This is where teams fall apart or come together. If we're divided and negative as fans, how can we reasonably expect the team to play the inspired Clippers basketball we've all fallen in love with at one point? Don't prove your loyalty and heart to me; Prove it to the Clippers. So what if they can't hear you? That's what being a fan is truely all about.

leidout · 03-12-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hutcht02

I was referring to the posts people have put up talking about how they're leaving and how they can't take it anymore. No more blaming the players, front office, or coaching staff. You're either here because you want to be, and happy to cheer on whatever Clippers team is on the court, or we don't want you. This is where teams fall apart or come together. If we're divided and negative as fans, how can we reasonably expect the team to play the inspired Clippers basketball we've all fallen in love with at one point? Don't prove your loyalty and heart to me; Prove it to the Clippers. So what if they can't hear you? That's what being a fan is truely all about.

So blindly support anything they do? That's not being a fan, that's just being stupid.

I want this team to win a championship one day, and i will not be happy until at the very least we are contending (or on course) for a championship.

Should the team be playing inspired basketball? Hell NO! If they were inspired by THIS season, then i don't wanna cheer for 'em. Being happy-go-lucky is not what the team or fans need right now. We need to be angry at the front office & coaching staff for completely blowing our chances for superstar players (we could have easily had Pau Gasol & Allen Iverson right now) & championship contention.

I haven't bought any ticket packages this year or bought any merchandise because i want management to know that as a diehard fan, i am pissed off at what has occurred this season. During our playoff year & the old brand/maggette/miles/odom days i went to games & bought tshirts & crap. The front office doesn't pay attention to anything else.

A fan who truly cares about this team & the future of this team will be upset at this situation and not afraid to show it.

hutcht02 · 03-12-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by leidout

So blindly support anything they do? That's not being a fan, that's just being stupid.

I want this team to win a championship one day, and i will not be happy until at the very least we are contending (or on course) for a championship.

Should the team be playing inspired basketball? Hell NO! If they were inspired by THIS season, then i don't wanna cheer for 'em. Being happy-go-lucky is not what the team or fans need right now. We need to be angry at the front office & coaching staff for completely blowing our chances for superstar players (we could have easily had Pau Gasol & Allen Iverson right now) & championship contention.

I haven't bought any ticket packages this year or bought any merchandise because i want management to know that as a diehard fan, i am pissed off at what has occurred this season. During our playoff year & the old brand/maggette/miles/odom days i went to games & bought tshirts & crap. The front office doesn't pay attention to anything else.

A fan who truly cares about this team & the future of this team will be upset at this situation and not afraid to show it.

Showing it is fine. Giving up isn't. I show it all the time too, but I'm not going anywhere or blaming anybody. I'm not specifically talking about you, Leidout, as much as I am the first few people that posted that said they're done for good. Where does quitting get us? No where. That, my friend, is stupid. So support what we have, and criticize as a caring fan does, but at the end of the day, you know you're waking up a Clippers fan tomorrow morning. And if it truely is that easy to hate being here, and to just call it quits, then you never truely were a fan. You were just along for the ride.

The joyride stops here, everyone. It's about time your fanhood is tested. Please fasten your seatbelts once again.

**yamaneko** · 03-12-2008, 10:10 PM

The sad thing is, i dont like this deal, because it makes us a BETTER team than we are now. Smush might actually mean another victory or two. For this offense, smush is actually better than knight and dickau combined, which is why dunleavvy went after him before going after either knight or dickau in the offseason. Hes not undersized, he plays good perimeter defense, hes an offensive minded PG, etc.

Had knight not had a two year deal, i wouldnt be shocked to see him (with a star PG in the draft or not) make this team next year as a primary backup. As it stands, i dont see us having a PG in the draft, plus picking up livvy's option, plus having knight come back since hes under contract, AND resigning smush.

Im really not sure why everyone is complaining here...you guys are complaining for the wrong reason. Had we been a near playoff team, and we made this move, it makes all the sense in the world. However, as a team who needs losses, we should be complaining because this move makes us BETTER, and at a waste of money (the money we saved by letting cassell go). THATS why this move sucks. We need to lose, not improve ourselves.

leidout · 03-12-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by yamaneko

Im really not sure why everyone is complaining here...you guys are complaining for the wrong reason. Had we been a near playoff team, and we made this move, it makes all the sense in the world. However, as a team who needs losses, we should be complaining because this move makes us BETTER, and at a waste of money (the money we saved by letting cassell go). THATS why this move sucks. We need to lose, not improve ourselves.

That's exactly why i'm complaining, what the **** is the front office thinking? Not only does everyone in LA (and probably the rest of the USA) hate this guy, but he's actually an upgrade.... why?!?!?!

Go get freakin' Gerald Green who might be worth something to us other than making our pick WORSE!

**Weasel** · 03-12-2008, 10:23 PM

I don't see him helping. He got into the doghouse with Phil and then Riley, he is definitely going to be in there with Dunleavy.

leidout · 03-12-2008, 10:24 PM

Why we should hate this guy:

From wikipedia (via sun sentinel)

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Parker is currently the subject of a complaint lodged against him by a valet parker who accused Parker of striking her after a dispute over a $12.00 parking fee. The female valet parking attendant, 41 year old Yomara McKenzie, alleges that Smush Parker injured her left arm at a condo building at 355 Biscayne Blvd. The valet could not find Parker's ticket even though Parker alleged that he had paid the $12 parking fee. A police report was generated and the matter is being investigated by the Miami Police Dept. The valet attendant alleges the altercation left severe scratches and possible nerve damage. McKenzie's personal injury attorney is planning to file civil suit for assault and battery. The Miami Heat moved Parker to their inactive list and put him on paid leave while they investigated the allegations.[7] On March 10, 2008, the Miami Heat waived Parker to free agency.

bootstrenf · 03-12-2008, 10:55 PM

dunleavy is a selfish idiot, but i understand his position in signing smush...for us fans, we know that losses will get us a better draft pick...dunleavy is the coach, and he is too stubborn to concede this season as many of us already have...even one more win is better for dunleavy...a lot of us are thinking that a 30-51 record might get us a damn good lottery pick...on the other hand, dunleavy is thinking that a dunleavy coached team that goes 30-51 would make him look really bad...

if we were really smart, we would force elton to sit until next year, and actually fake an injury to maggette...kind of miami style...start the pg that would most likely help thornton's development, make kaman sit due to "back spasms" and "flu"....let mobley play about 20 minutes per game to stay sharp, and let powell get some burn and see if he develops into a decent backup...riley is a champioinship caliber gm/coach and he is tanking...dunleavy and the clippers front office should take a hint and do the same thing...

miami will tank, get beasley or rose to pair up with wade, and also either resign marion, or let him go for some cap space(to possibly sign elton???) and be on there way to more championship runs, while we will make all the stupid moves to keep us mired in mediocrity...

but we are all fans, and we will all be here to complain our asses off...

hobojoe · 03-12-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yamaneko

The sad thing is, i dont like this deal, because it makes us a BETTER team than we are now. Smush might actually mean another victory or two. For this offense, smush is actually better than knight and dickau combined, which is why dunleavvy went after him before going after either knight or dickau in the offseason. Hes not undersized, he plays good perimeter defense, hes an offensive minded PG, etc.

Had knight not had a two year deal, i wouldnt be shocked to see him (with a star PG in the draft or not) make this team next year as a primary backup. As it stands, i dont see us having a PG in the draft, plus picking up livvy's option, plus having knight come back since hes under contract, AND resigning smush.

Im really not sure why everyone is complaining here...you guys are complaining for the wrong reason. Had we been a near playoff team, and we made this move, it makes all the sense in the world. However, as a team who needs losses, we should be complaining because this move makes us BETTER, and at a waste of money (the money we saved by letting cassell go). THATS why this move sucks. We need to lose, not improve ourselves.

I still can't see Livingston back next year. The qualifying offer is $5.8 Million for a guy coming off a horrific injury who never proved anything even before that. That's a hell of a lot of money for probably little to nothing in return.

bootstrenf · 03-12-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hobojoe

I still can't see Livingston back next year. The qualifying offer is $5.8 Million for a guy coming off a horrific injury who never proved anything even before that. That's a hell of a lot of money for probably little to nothing in return.

and there is already tendinitis in the knee...

and also, i think that the clippers will sign a lottery pick pg this year in the draft...which would make livingston very expendable...and a 5.8 million contract is nothing to sneeze at either...i really don't know what will happen to livy...

ElMarroAfamado · 03-13-2008, 09:49 AM

wow livingston would get that kinda money for not doing ****?
sorry but i think we should move on unless he takes less money to stay here which i doubt
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it seems a couple great pgs come out of every draft, i wonder if we can land ONE...

squeemu · 03-13-2008, 10:30 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't watch the Lakers all that often, but I seem to remember Smush hitting a lot of threes for them a few years back. Am I making this up? I thought he could be a decent second option...the problem is, the Clippers need a first option.

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