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Re: OT: Michael Redd's place among active pure SG's

That there is a different topic almost though, as far as youth goes. Who would i rather give a 7 year contract to starting this year? Well thats a more difficult topic. I wouldnt want to give redd such a deal, since he would be making the most money when hes like 36 years old. It would be a gamble to bank on martin getting up to redds level, but agian, age is a big issue with that, when were talking long term deals.

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How long does he have to kick *** for people to repect what he is doing so far early into his career. Sky is the limit for Martin. We already know Redd's limit
Thats where we differ. I dont consider what he has done the last year and a half, kicking butt just yet to make him a guaranteed star now, or guaranteed star in the future, or on the same level as redd.

To illustrate, lets take a look at 2 of maggette's years

Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
24 73 72 36.0 6.2 13.9 .447 1.0 3.2 .329 7.2 8.5 .848 1.3 4.6 5.9 3.1 0.9 0.2 2.8 3.0 20.7

25 66 60 36.9 6.4 14.9 .431 0.8 2.5 .304 8.5 10.0 .857 1.1 4.9 6.0 3.4 1.1 0.1 3.0 2.9 22.2

And lets compare him to martin at about the same age.
Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
23 80 80 2818 6.5 13.6 .473 1.6 4.3 .381 6.1 7.3 .844 0.9 3.5 4.4 2.2 1.3 0.1 1.7 2.3 20.7
24 61 57 2216 6.8 14.8 .456 1.7 4.3 .402 8.2 9.4 .869 0.8 3.7 4.4 2.1 1.0 0.1 2.1 2.4 23.4

Those are very similar numbers. But I doubt many would have said, well, look at those two years, maggette is on the level of other star guards around the league, and is only going to get better. And for any who did feel that way, they would have been wrong.

Dont get me wrong, i dont think stats tell 100% of the story. GUys like tayshaun prince and bruce bowen are a lot more talented than just what their stats are. But still i just am not convinced that martin is a star alrady, nor is going to be come one guaranteed. I have said 10 times though that at his age he certainly has star potential.

Its true we already know redd's limit. But thats a fact. Redd's limit is being one of the deadliest shooters and offensive players in the nba. A 27 point a game player. With martin we really DONT know his limit since weve only seen him starting for a year and a half. He could be a 30 point a game superstar. Or he could be the next jamal magloire. Someone who improved at the beg. of his career as he got playing time ,only to peak and then fall off the face of the earth.
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