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06-11-2002, 09:23 PM
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6th Man
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Clip fans opinion on weather Kandi stays or goes??
Pretty simple, will he re-sign with the clips??
I haven't heard too much on his scenario, and I was just wondering what the fans thought.
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06-11-2002, 09:27 PM
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I heard some where that Sterling is going to dish out the money for the Knadi man.
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06-11-2002, 09:42 PM
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Sterling dishing out cash? That sounds like a first, hopefully it can become a trend. 
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06-11-2002, 09:47 PM
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If he doesnt start now they are going to be rebuilding until Sterling croaks of a heart attack from all the women he says he has been with.
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06-11-2002, 11:16 PM
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Kandi will certainly be a Clipper for this upcoming year. The organization has said they will match any offer made, and with him being a RFA, that means he'll be a Clipper at least one more year.
After that, I say let him walk. Kandi is going to command a near MAX, if not a full MAX contract, and he is not worth it. If the Clips give him that type of contract, they are going to put themselves into a situation like Seattle with Vin Baker in that they will be overpaying for a solid big man only cuz they are so rare. I'd much rather let him walk than pay him that type of money.
I'd draft Hilario at 8 and Borchardt at 12. Let them play behind Kandi this upcoming year, then when he goes the year after, let one of them(most likely Hilario) take over as the 5. Both players are better fits than Kandi(more defensive minded) and both obviously would come cheaper.
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06-13-2002, 10:14 AM
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Personally I wouldnt mind getting someone like Keon Clark because he does the same stuff as Kandi for a helluva lot cheaper and we can use that money for our other young guys which we'll need. Kandi shoots a pretty low % for someone that plays that close to the rim.
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06-13-2002, 10:25 AM
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I like Keon Clark, but he does not do the same things as Kandi.
Keon Clark weighs a good 50lbs less than Michael Olowokandi. He cannot do the things KAndi does. Kandi can bang down low with the big boys of the league, and Clark cannot. Thats the single biggest think Clark can't do, and that's the biggest need in a C.
I am a HUGE fan of Clark, but he's not a starting C in the league. He's an excellent backup 4/5, or maybe even starting 4, but he can't start at the 5.
Plus, Clark is going to get probably 5/6mill on the FA market ... They might as well pay Kandi 8 if thats the case. Cuz they'd still need to bring in another big body to be able to bang at the 5 along with Clark, so they'd be paying the same price as Kandi anyway.
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06-13-2002, 12:10 PM
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Yeah I agree. Plus Kandi is relatively still untapped talent wise while Clark has reached his peak. I just think that we will be a team that gets out and runs and Clark would fit the mold for our 5 better than Kandi.
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06-13-2002, 05:01 PM
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He'll stay in LA babay!
It rhymes, oh yeah! He's definitely going to stay. He averaged 17ppg the last 20-25 games. Gentry has respect for him Therefore, he isn't going anywhere. 
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06-13-2002, 07:07 PM
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Thats why he got fined for speaking out against the management then right, Im not to sure about the respect thing but he could stay.
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06-15-2002, 02:12 PM
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Oh yeah
I fogot about that whole fine thing. Wups! Well, I hope he stays in LA, he will develop into a true center. And a good one at that.
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06-15-2002, 05:54 PM
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Espn the mag calls him the second best true center, behind shaq. I think that this praise is a little lofty, but I think he could become a great and legit 7 footer. I think if the Clippers make the playoffs this year, they might be able to talk Kandi into signing for less than the max. He is sick and tired of losing, but that is about to stop. I say, if they can get him for under the max, the Clips should keep him. If not? Sign and trade baby.
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06-16-2002, 11:23 AM
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That ESPN Mag crap suggested that the Clips keep Kandi over Brand which is absolutely ludicrous. I do not consider Brand a superstar caliber player, but he is far more important to the team than Michael Olowokandi is. You could stick the 6'7 Brand in at the C spot full time, and I guarantee he'd still outplay Kandi. He wouldn't put up his 19/10, but he'd still be better than Kandi at the 5.
If Kandi is willing to sign between 6 and 7 mill, sign him. If he wants anything more, send his *** off somewhere else and let him be the next Jim McIlvaine.
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06-16-2002, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by RD
That ESPN Mag crap suggested that the Clips keep Kandi over Brand which is absolutely ludicrous. I do not consider Brand a superstar caliber player, but he is far more important to the team than Michael Olowokandi is. You could stick the 6'7 Brand in at the C spot full time, and I guarantee he'd still outplay Kandi. He wouldn't put up his 19/10, but he'd still be better than Kandi at the 5.
If Kandi is willing to sign between 6 and 7 mill, sign him. If he wants anything more, send his *** off somewhere else and let him be the next Jim McIlvaine.
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I agree that Brand is more important to the team than Kandi will ever be, but Kandi is someone who can go up against shaq, and I think he could blossom into a great center. Would I rather re-sign Darius, Brand, or Q-rich? Yes. If I could sign them all would I? Yes.
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06-16-2002, 11:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by basketball_jesus
If I could sign them all would I? Yes.
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I agree with that. But, I don't think the team can.
I believe the team can sign 3 players to MAX deals(whether they will or not is for another discussion, but I believe they can). Right now, I see 4 players that deserve, or will command, a MAX contract when their contract is up, so one of those has to go. Those 4 are Brand(who deserves one now), Odom(who will deserve one if he plays like he did his first 2 years), Miles(once he full develops), and Kandi(only cuz he's a C). I think along with those 3 MAX contracts, they can afford a couple(2/3) very good deals, maybe in the 4/5mill range. I think Q falls into that area, as I think Dooling will as well.
But, back to those 4 players. Of those 4, which 3 do you keep? IMO, it's a no brainer that its Miles, Brand, and LO, and Kandi is the one thats left out. I don't care of Kandi is a C or not, he isn't that good.
As for Q, I don't ever see him being a star. His too one dimensional IMO. He's a fantastic scorer, but he can't do much else. He can score, but he doesn't pass well and doesn't creat for others well. And he's only average defensively. I think he's going to be an excellent reserve, and rack up many 6th man awards, but thats all I think he'll be(well, he could be a very good starter, but for the Clips, he'll come off the bench, and I think he'll be fine iwth that as long as he gets minutes).
Anyway, the reason I think Kandi should go is cuz he isn't that good, and because he isn't a key part of this team. I think the team should be built around LO, Brand, and Miles.
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