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06-03-2004, 10:36 PM
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Richardson: how sure is his return to LA?
Is Q's return a foregone conclusion? I know that the Clippers CAN match almost any offer under the sun, but how interested are they in re-signing him?
Would a deal like this one be possible?
Portland sends:
Dale Davis + #13
LA sends:
Quentin Richardson + Drobnjak
Why for LA: they get rid of Peja's contract (which has 3 years, about $9m left), they get an experienced big guy in Dale Davis who is an expiring contract, and they get the 13th pick, where they could legitimately take Sebastian Telfair without feeling like they're reaching.
Why for Portland: they get the best player in the deal (always a good thing) who would team with Miles and could step right into the lineup at the 2. They'd also get a backup 5 who would be an improvement over what they've got.
I really don't know the mood surrounding Richardson and wanted to know Clippers' fans thoughts about him generally and the above kind of deal in particular.
Ed O.
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06-04-2004, 04:33 AM
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Re: Richardson: how sure is his return to LA?
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Originally posted by Ed O!
Is Q's return a foregone conclusion? I know that the Clippers CAN match almost any offer under the sun, but how interested are they in re-signing him?
Would a deal like this one be possible?
Portland sends:
Dale Davis + #13
LA sends:
Quentin Richardson + Drobnjak
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No and hell no...
Once Sterling realizes Kobe will not be a Clipper, we'll resign Q...
Denver and San Antonio are going to make runs at him, but he'll be back.
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06-04-2004, 10:07 AM
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Re: Re: Richardson: how sure is his return to LA?
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Denver and San Antonio are going to make runs at him, but he'll be back.
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I have heard that Denver wants him bad.
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06-04-2004, 10:41 AM
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I think its tough to gauge whether he will be back or not. I would say its probably 50/50.
Q and Maggette are not great fits together, and any point we get in the draft that can play now is more shoot first, and that is not a good matchup in the backcourt.
If the Clips end up with Gordon, I would move Q and let Jaric play the 2spot. It improves the defense a great deal, and more importantly, the ability to put the ball on the floor and create for others is also improved.
But, Dunleavy does like Q. Q is talented and seems to want to remain. So you can make a case for him to come back.
I personally would make that deal of Davis and 13 for Q and Drobnjak. I might want Qyntel Woods instead of Davis, but I would still make the deal. Drobnjak's deal isnt so bad, because there is a team option after next season. So he could only make 2.5mill next year and be gone. Thats not too bad for a solid backup big man.
But, the reason I would make the deal is to create a more balanced team. Like I said, Gordon and Jaric in the backcourt is a much better situation for the team(Im assuming Gordon would be taken at 6 in a trade down with Atl). The Clips would then own 13 and 17 to address other spots. I would think the Clips would take Telfair and maybe a Luke Jackson with those picks. They would still be in need of a backup point guard even with Gordon, and they could use the shooting and all around game of Jackson in the backup 2 guard.
Gordon, Jaric, Maggette, Brand, Kaman backed up by:
Telfair, Jackson, Simmons, Wilcox, and Davis is an excellent lineup IMO. Size, quickness, shooting, post play, and the presence of a vet like Davis would help out a lot.
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06-04-2004, 03:47 PM
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Id like to see richardson stay, unless we get a high profile FA like bryant, mcgrady, or trade for iverson, etc. While odom and magette could not play together, i think richardson and magette complement each others game. Magette is the slasher who always finds a way to get in the paint, get to the hood. Richardson is a decent 3 point shooter, while he also is one of the better post up guards around as well.
i dont want to see the clippers get gordon. I want them to get more of a true point...i dont want another dooling. I like jaric to stay as the starter, with a youngster like telfair, livingston, or another coming out of the draft. I think with that theyd be set. Even with the injuries, when house was pressed into duty at he PG, he showed he could be an adequate third PG in emergency situations.
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06-05-2004, 10:04 AM
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Re: Re: Richardson: how sure is his return to LA?
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Originally posted by arenas809!
No and hell no...
Once Sterling realizes Kobe will not be a Clipper, we'll resign Q...
Denver and San Antonio are going to make runs at him, but he'll be back.
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agreed y have a pain in the neck like davis?
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06-05-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by yamaneko!
While odom and magette could not play together, i think richardson and magette complement each others game.
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I couldnt disagree more. Q and Maggette are about as poor a fit as you can get.
Neither player can handle the ball and do anything for anyone else but themselves. If they get the ball, the only plus they bring is scoring for themselves. And, neither player is a great shooter, and neither player is great in penetration. Maggette's only endearing quality in this regard is his ability to draw fouls and get to the line. They can't pass or create for others and dont seem to care to either.
Odom and Maggette could play, because they did complement each other well. Q and Maggette cannot. Thats why I dont mind seeing them split up, and if they are, Maggette is the one to keep.
You need one of your wings to be able to give the PG a break in duties bringing the ball up, so that he doenst have all that responsibility on themselves. Neither Q or Maggette can do that. If you have a PG who can score pretty well, the need is even greater for a wing that can handle the ball. If we get a point in this draft, its going to be Gordon, and thats his style - And Q and Maggette are not good fits at all with him.
I dont see any reason to back up saying they complement each other well. They do a lot of the same things, and their weaknesses are the same and they hurt the team because the versatility is not there.
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06-07-2004, 12:16 AM
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I think they compliment each other by doing their best scoring in different ways.
Maggette drives to the key and/or gets to the free throw line, and also shoots pullup jumpers.
Q shoots threes, tips in shots(mostly his own), drives the baseline for layup or dunk or occasionally posts up and shoots a turnaround bank.
Both are improving shooters, and there handles adequate enough to get them where they need to go. Sometimes people with good/great handles try to create too much of the dribble and eat up a lot of the clock, we don't have that problem with them.
Maggette has shown flashes of good playmaking ability and neither is opposed to passing the ball when they can't create for themselves.
"If you have a PG who can score pretty well, the need is even greater for a wing that can handle the ball. If we get a point in this draft, its going to be Gordon, and thats his style - And Q and Maggette are not good fits at all with him."
If we're going to get a point in the draft I think his creating/playmaking ability should make up for Maggette and Q's deficiency in that category. Otherwise, Marko was doing the exact thing you outlined last season.
Maggette and Q have no problem with the amount of shots the other takes and they have chemistry together. I'm not opposed to Q leaving, but the replacement player should either be a much better defender(and have a good shooter off the bench), or a much better playmaker and a moderately better shooter. As we've seen with Andre Miller, sometimes what you had(Jeff McInnis) worked better and I don't want to see that happen if we let Q go.
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06-07-2004, 02:57 AM
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Q not fitting with Maggette? What a joke! The 2 compliment each other very well and both averaged over 17 a game! How does this not fit? If anyone gets a chance read the article about Q in SLAM magazine. Its good. He says he wants to stay a clipper because he feels that there is unfinised buisness and he loves the fans and wants to repay them for believing the clippers no matter what and not feel like he's gonna bolt. But he also says its a buisness and if the clippers want to keep him its up to them. So I hope Q stays and I really hope that D.S. resigns him. Sign Q back STERLING 
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06-07-2004, 10:32 AM
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LoL because they score 17 a game is the worst logic I have ever seen for them being good fits with each other.
Both are poor ball handlers and cannot create for anyone but themselves.
What was the biggest problem on the team last year? Ball movement, and putting the ball o nthe floor to create for others.
Getting a point guard will help, but it is not the only thing that needs to be done. As long as Q and Maggette are next to each other, we are going to have problems will ball movement and driving and dishing.
Thats why they are poor fits. They are the exact same type of player on the wing - Scorers. They score, and thats it. You need some versatility and variation in skills among your wing players, and we have similar players. They are not good fits together. Can they play together? Sure. But we'll never take that step up if they do.
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06-07-2004, 08:00 PM
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They'll probably resign him as long as some team doesnt overpay him, it would be foolish for the Clippers to match if Q is being overpaid. They have Jaric who could step into the 2 guard spot nicely, and I'm sure they'll address their PG problem in the draft.
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06-23-2004, 03:02 PM
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They have Jaric who could step into the 2 guard spot nicely, and I'm sure they'll address their PG problem in the draft.
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I think they should pick Livingston... or Harris
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06-23-2004, 04:29 PM
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Yes. most do agree too that they should get livingston. Hed be a perfect compliment to Q and magette who are a perfect fit on the clippers.
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