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Old 08-18-2006, 08:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Kobe: The BEST Shooting Guard in the NBA according to RealGM

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Tell me one guard below carter who should be hire and explain it in detail. You cant you say? Because there are no better 2 guards than Kobe, Wade, and Vince.
If T-Mac was never moved up to the 3 then He'd be better SG, I'm just saying Carter gets too much credit for nothing, what has he EVER done?

I respect Carter, the only reason I hate him is because he is a hypocritical person.

Word to the bird man, I love watching his dunks on sports center.
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:53 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm just saying Carter gets too much credit for nothing, what has he EVER done?
I hope for your sake that this was a joke.
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Re: Kobe: The BEST Shooting Guard in the NBA according to RealGM

Kobe Bryant is the best player in the game regardless of position.
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I hope for your sake that this was a joke.
No I was not joking. What? Winning a dunk contest is as good as going deep into the playoffs or winning an MVP?

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Kobe Bryant is the best player in the game regardless of position.
hmmmm...LeBron has to tell something about that...
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No I was not joking. What? Winning a dunk contest is as good as going deep into the playoffs or winning an MVP?

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hmmmm...LeBron has to tell something about that...
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Kobe is the best shooting guard in the entire nba. It's not even debatable.
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Re: Kobe: The BEST Shooting Guard in the NBA according to RealGM

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Do you want me to post an entire list of his accomplishments?

I'll do it for you

# NBA Rookie of the Year (1999)
# All NBA Second Team (2001)
# All NBA Third Teram (2000)
# Slam Dunk Champ (2000)
# NBA All-Rookie Team (1999)

The only respectable awards

Slam Dunk competition win, what the hell does that prove?

All Rookie team, with the top 5 players in that draft being

* Vince Carter, Toronto Raptors
* Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics
* Jason Williams, Sacramento Kings
* Mike Bibby, Vancouver Grizzlies
* Matt Harpring, Orlando Magic

All of them were first teamers, Matt Harpring for gods sake, his only real competition was Paul Pierce and by stats he beat him. Same goes with the ROY


All NBA teams, he hasnt gotten any as of late has he? Nope. The only All NBA teams he was on was when he was in Toronto.

And his numerous all star selections, those are based by fans vote. Not skill.

Heck if everyone in the US decided to they could vote out Kobe by not voting for him
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I'm just saying Carter gets too much credit for nothing, what has he EVER done?
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# NBA Rookie of the Year (1999)
# All NBA Second Team (2001)
# All NBA Third Teram (2000)
# Slam Dunk Champ (2000)
# NBA All-Rookie Team (1999)

All Rookie team, with the top 5 players in that draft being

* Vince Carter, Toronto Raptors
* Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics
* Jason Williams, Sacramento Kings
* Mike Bibby, Vancouver Grizzlies
* Matt Harpring, Orlando Magic


And his numerous all star selections
I think you just proved yourself wrong. I don't care how much you say those accomplishments are because of no competition, they're still accomplishments. He's done plenty in his career, and deserves to be #3 on this list, whether you like it or not.
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I listed reasons why I thought those accomplishments were junk. The only one I thought was decent was the ROY and even that he was a mile ahead of everyone else in the running. And I am not saying he doesnt deserve the 3rd spot, I'm saying that he is just overrated.
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hmmmm...LeBron has to tell something about that...
I disagree, LeBron isn't even 2nd to Kobe IMO.

My NBA top 5 players in the game regardless of team success.

1.) Kobe Bryant
2.) Dwyane Wade
3.) Tim Duncan
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5.) LeBron James
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