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06-06-2007, 09:43 AM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
odom you had your chance with the lakers and you failed to deliever.
i know the expectation was high but you still failed.
if the lakers decide to not trade you then be grateful and first start working on your free throw shooting.
i know you got the heart and passion but it didnt exactly translate well into the basketball court.
NBA is a cold blooded business if youre not #1 then you dont get what you want.
so quit your whining, buy yourself a ticket to indiana, and go **** yourself.
just playing, hope odom doesnt get traded. I have a feeling he's going to come back stronger than ever next year.
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06-06-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
Man thats a good looking free agency next summer. Makes you think.
However I think this thread is unfair. No one wants to give up Odom and Bynum for JO. If we dont have to give up Odom for Kidd, we shouldnt have to for JO. So my question is which would you rather have:
Kidd/Kobe/Odom or Kobe/Odom/JO
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06-06-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
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Man thats a good looking free agency next summer. Makes you think.
However I think this thread is unfair. No one wants to give up Odom and Bynum for JO. If we dont have to give up Odom for Kidd, we shouldnt have to for JO. So my question is which would you rather have:
Kidd/Kobe/Odom or Kobe/Odom/JO
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Kobe Odom and Jo
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06-06-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
It's hard to blame Lamar. I wouldn't want to go to Indiana, either.
I really, really hope the Lakers can pull something off to where we don't have to get rid of Odom to get O'Neal.
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06-06-2007, 04:40 PM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
I'd take a tandem of Kobe and JO over Odom and Kobe, every day of the week and twice on sundays. Odom is one of those types of players who are bloated with talent, and every season leaves those who watch him thinking he will break out the following year, but just finds a way to disapoint. But when the end of the season comes rolling around he some how gets the delusions of his "magical" break out season into the minds of fans of which ever team he is playing for. He's been in the league for 7 years, and basically what you see is what you get. There are many excuses that could be made for him, but at the end of the day that's all they are, excuses. It's time to find another second option for Kobe and JO is as great of an opportunity as they come, a fantastic low post player, tough defender, and decent mid range shooter. Yeah you can call him injury prone, but so is Odom so when it comes down to it, this expirment can't turn out any worse then that of Kobe and Odom. So let's get JO over here imediatly.
And to stay on topic, Odom needs to suck it up, if he didn't want to be traded he should have produced at the standards that were set for him. It's tough but deal with it.
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06-06-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
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I'd take a tandem of Kobe and JO over Odom and Kobe, every day of the week and twice on sundays. Odom is one of those types of players who are bloated with talent, and every season leaves those who watch him thinking he will break out the following year, but just finds a way to disapoint. But when the end of the season comes rolling around he some how gets the delusions of his "magical" break out season into the minds of fans of which ever team he is playing for. He's been in the league for 7 years, and basically what you see is what you get. There are many excuses that could be made for him, but at the end of the day that's all they are, excuses. It's time to find another second option for Kobe and JO is as great of an opportunity as they come, a fantastic low post player, tough defender, and decent mid range shooter. Yeah you can call him injury prone, but so is Odom so when it comes down to it, this expirment can't turn out any worse then that of Kobe and Odom. So let's get JO over here imediatly.
And to stay on topic, Odom needs to suck it up, if he didn't want to be traded he should have produced at the standards that were set for him. It's tough but deal with it.
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I'm sure everyone agrees with you. The dilemna is this:
1. O'Neal is not worth Odom AND Bynum. Throw in our first rounder and we get raped.
2. Odom alone can bring in a quality player. Bynum paired with Kwame's expiring contract can bring in another impact player. Why pair the two together?
3. Kidd/Odom/Kobe is better than O'Neal/Kobe
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06-06-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
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I'm sure everyone agrees with you. The dilemna is this:
1. O'Neal is not worth Odom AND Bynum. Throw in our first rounder and we get raped.
2. Odom alone can bring in a quality player. Bynum paired with Kwame's expiring contract can bring in another impact player. Why pair the two together?
3. Kidd/Odom/Kobe is better than O'Neal/Kobe
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I agree with your first 2 points, the third is where i'm a little more skeptical. It just seem sto me that Kidd/Odom/Kobe all demand the ball to perform, that when the ball is in there hands they seem most comfortable out on the court and are able to perform some pretty amazing basketball feats. But to have three players who demand the ball seems like it might detract from each other's strengths, mainly with Kidd and Odom. Odom demands the ball in his hands for him to make any form of a productive basketball play, and i have yet to see Odom do anything efficent off the ball, and if he has they come so few and far between i can hardly believe that he can adapt to Kidd's style of playing. Maybe I'm wrong though, it's definately a gamble to have those three paired together, i just think that a O'neal/ Kobe tandem leaves a little less question marks and brings in what a team needs most in the west, strong offensive and deffensive post play.
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06-06-2007, 07:38 PM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
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I'm sure everyone agrees with you. The dilemna is this:
1. O'Neal is not worth Odom AND Bynum. Throw in our first rounder and we get raped.
2. Odom alone can bring in a quality player. Bynum paired with Kwame's expiring contract can bring in another impact player. Why pair the two together?
3. Kidd/Odom/Kobe is better than O'Neal/Kobe
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exactly. we make that trade, and we have absolutely no trade bait left on our roster. just a bunch of young, inexperienced players, or players w/ no value to go along with two players w/ $20 million+ dollar contracts.
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06-06-2007, 07:44 PM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
I personally don't see how Odom and Kidd can play together. Odom doesn't play well without the basketball and Kidd can't shoot in the half-court. That Laker team would be worse.
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06-06-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
Ideally, you'd like to get O'neal without giving up Odom. I don't see how that is possible. You'd have to believe that Indiana can get better packages than Bynum, Brown, Vlad, and a first for O'Neal.
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06-06-2007, 07:48 PM
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Ideally, you'd like to get O'neal without giving up Odom. I don't see how that is possible. You'd have to believe that Indiana can get better packages than Bynum, Brown, Vlad, and a first for O'Neal.
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you would think, but if they're set on trading him to the western conference, Dallas is probably the only other suiter that would be willing to take on that huge contract.
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06-06-2007, 08:22 PM
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**** you, Odom. You are leaving the Lakers and you are going to like it.
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Hell yeah! That's the spirit. If he wanted to stay with the Lakers maybe he should've put a better and more consistent effort on the floor for the three years he was here---Plain and Simple!
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06-07-2007, 09:15 AM
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Re: Stein's notebook: Odom unhappy about possible Pacers trade
Why don't we just get Artest First, then see what comes up. This is why we need West. Kobe wants changes but he cant help if the front office screws up; so if this offseason fails, don't blame kobe.
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