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Old 06-06-2007, 05:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Rumored Trade: Bobcats/ Lakers

this deal is better than the JO one.. we'd get to keep lamar and all.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Rumored Trade: Bobcats/ Lakers

how can people seriously see this as a possibilty for the Bobcats? zero, and I mean ZERO chance they make this trade. Vlad's trade value is about as low it gets. and why does everyone keep hyping our first round pick like it's the NFL draft? it's a decently talented draft class, but the 19th pick isn't THAT valuable. This trade is heavily in our favor, and we'd be foolish not to do it if it was on the table. too bad it isn't...
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Rumored Trade: Bobcats/ Lakers

Can we get felton somehow, he'd solve our PG issues
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You're missing the point, Lamar Odom wouldn't be involved in this trade. Okafor is not a young and inexperienced big man like Bynum because unlike Bynum, he doesn't need another 2-3 years to become a big contributor. Right now Okafor does things that Bynum does not, hes rebounds and plays good defense both on the ball and off the ball. Hes quicker and more athletic than Bynum. He can score but doesn't demand the ball to be effective on offense. Also, nothing has indicated that hes peaked yet, seeing that hes improved his game every year hes played. The only thing that has slowed him down is the fact that he is injury prone, but so is O'Neal.
Obviously he's a better player than Bynum, but that's not the point. He's not a reliable contributor offensively either. He still has yet to live up to his expectations. We made the same argument for Lamar Odom when we got him in the Shaq trade (he was the same age). At that time in development a player is what he is. He hasn't gotten better each year considering he still has yet to do as well as he did in his rookie season. The Lakers need veterans, not more talent to develop.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Obviously he's a better player than Bynum, but that's not the point. He's not a reliable contributor offensively either. He still has yet to live up to his expectations. We made the same argument for Lamar Odom when we got him in the Shaq trade (he was the same age). At that time in development a player is what he is. He hasn't gotten better each year considering he still has yet to do as well as he did in his rookie season. The Lakers need veterans, not more talent to develop.
Considering they don't show Bobcat games outside of NC, I'll your word with a grain of salt. This is exactly how we determine who looks at stats and who actually watches the games.

Okafor now is a far better player than he was during his rookie year both offensively and defensively. What expectations of him? That he was going to become an elite defender and rebounder with good offensive game? His offensive game is far from extraordinary but it is reliable at the very least. And to say that it hasn't improved since his rookie year is just plain wrong. Especially considering all he did during his rookie year was 1) drive and dunk, 2) shoot mid range jumpshots, 3) grab rebounds and dunk. If you don't count adding an entire back to the basket game to his offense an improvement, then I don't know what else to say. If you are to say that he is now what he will be, an all league defensive player who is also a competent offensive player, then fine, but to imply that he is done improving is ridiculous. Just because his points aren't up from his rookie year doesn't mean his offensive game hasn't gotten better. It simply means that Bernie Bickerstaff stupidly allows Adam Morrison (who is probably the worst player in the league that plays 30 mpg) chuck instead of giving their post guy the freaking ball.

Okafor is seriously underrated, until he got injured this last year, he was outplaying Dwight Howard and was easily the front runner for DPOY.

edit: I also find it amusing that you maintain that Okafor is done developing, yet you insist that the Lakers can't afford to develop another raw big man. The only issue with him is that he is injury prone. He would be a great fit for this team although I doubt Charlotte would let him go for Andrew Bynum who is overrated. He rebounds, defends, and scores without having to dominate the ball unlike O'Neal who has the tendency to stall the offense by holding onto the ball too long in the post.
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What if I were to say this trade were to happen...
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:51 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Rumored Trade: Bobcats/ Lakers

The only reason we shouldnt do this trade is because Okafor is a little injury prone. But so is JO, maybe even more so. And in this trade we wouldnt have to give up nearly as much.

I dont think that the Bobcats would do it.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:49 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Rumored Trade: Bobcats/ Lakers

If the bobcats can keep Gerald Wallace they have a very good chance to make the playoffs next year.If they don't at least compete for the playoffs they will continue to lose millions and millions of dollars while possibly endangering their longterm viability in Charlotte(The natives are pretty much restless or ambivalent for a multitude of reasons starting with the FO incompetence and the avarice of the organization in setting ticket prices).

SHort version is that the Cats aren't going to make deals which obviously make them worse in the short term.I don't see this deal happening period.Radmanovich would be about fifth in line on our frontline and Bynum looks to be seriously overhyped at this point.
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