afobisme

signing fisher isn't that bad an idea, but he can't be traded (or else we'll get a lot of negative media) and is as good as he'll ever be.

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CDRacingZX6R

Its not a great move, but it was also one of the only moves out there.

I mean, where were we going to find a vet guard with experience in the triangle that would sign 3 years and come in better than Fisher?

There might be better guards to pick up, but the problem is finding a better guard at the price we can give them that will fulfill the role that Fisher can.

If we resign Mihm for a decent price, I think this would be an ok off season. I still am one of those few people that think the laker's have a decent team, if they can remain healthy have a shot at the second round. No title of course, but making it a little further in the playoffs for sure.

Last season everyone including our coach was injured. This season I think we should be fine.

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CDRacingZX6R

Awesome post. You get a rep from me on this one.

Fisher knows our offense. Is a great floor leader with fourth quarter experience. Is a good presense both on the court and in the locker room. And he isn't afraid to tell Kobe to stfu. Thats the type player the Lakers need.. And goobers like Steve Blake were not going to bring that.

Not to mention if people don't think Kobe was involved at bring Fisher here, there nuts. He was probably pushing them to pull the trigger as soon as Fisher opted out.

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jazzy1

We lost games due to athleticsm plain and simple, got beat by the Grizz at home because some guy named Kinsey, Warrick, and gay ran us off the court. It was like that playing all the bad teams they had athlete's not savy vets and ran us out.

The good teams had more cerebral players and we hung in because they didn't have the young huys who could run and our supposed cerebral guys were able to compete.

Too many games, Sasha, Walton, odom at 4, Smush not that athletic as far as lateral movement, a limping Kwame and Kobe before he got in shape after surgery were liabilities.

We can win now with younger pg's, pg's in our system don't run the team they simple bring the ball up so its not a typical pg situation with us we could use the shooting and penetrating and athleticsm of the young guys.

Fishers just isn't gonna move the dial all that much.

If one of the young guys develop fast who knows we might actually take a step forward.

Who says Critt might not be a phenom who comes in and plays great right way.

But he won't get a real shot to help this season because Fisher will be dragging his vet savy around and PJ won't ever want to pull someone he trusts.

Critt is more agressive and talented than farmar and Farmar I think is still gonna be a good one.

This Fisher move looks like a transparent play to make Kobe feel better sadly Kobe will see through this as well he knows Fish can't help them get much better.

Wilt_The_Stilt

You keep knocking Farmar's D, when its obvious Fisher is not any better.

There, I "proved" it the same way you did. With lot's of insight, logic and evidence.

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KDOS

That statement does not need a lot of insight and evidence. Its not rocket science. If you've seen how Fisher played and how Farmar did, none of them is miles ahead better than the other defensively. I dont even know why you're arguing with me. Its like me saying "Slava Medvedenko is not any better than Brian Cook defensively" and all of a sudden you have Medvedenko fanbois standing up for poor ol Slava.


Anyway...

On a defensive point of view, Fisher on the floor is a much safer piece than Farmar right now. Simply because Fisher's experience means a lot in crucial situations. He's battle tested and possesses the smarts and wits of a veteran, he has a much broader knowledge in the pro level. Farmar has been exposed and is struggling for the exact opposite reasons that Fisher has demonstrated.


Will Farmar emerge as a better player? Sure, maybe, I hope so. Kid is phenomenal and is more of a true point guard than Fisher. IS Farmar a more capable player than Fisher right now?...


Ask yourself, after hitting the rookie wall and sent to the D League in mid season and is currently being outplayed by Javaris in the SL this month, Its hard to believe he is an overall better player than Fisher at either end of the court.

KDOS

If LA is simply and plainly losing because of athleticism and not because of their poor execution on fundamentals, then they should've never made the Playoffs, because I could name a whole lot of teams much athletic than the Lakers and yet they were beaten by this sqaud when LA was healthy.


I could remember one game from the Grizzlies where LA was up by double digits at the end of first half. The Lakers then decided not to execute the same game plan in the other quarter. To make story short, they did not play defense and forgot to use the same formula that helped them maintain a lead and boom, Grizllies blew up for 40+ points or at least close to it(if im not mistaken) in just ONE quarter, short summary and the Lakers lost for obvious reasons.


Im also wary about putting inexperience point guards for starters. Javaris may be an exemption to the rule simply because he has Tri experience, but I dont think Phil is going to break the rule if he has better options. On a traditional Triangle, you dont need a quick and younger guard to attain the goal, if history is any indication, its always better to have a player who has knowledge on how to properly execute the game plan.


Rookies are just very prone to errors. The kind of errors you want to avoid if you're team is trying to elevate their team play and rhythm. If we are rebuilding, then Im all for Javaris or Jordan taking majority of the minutes. But unitl they can prove otherwise, Id rather have veterans playing majority of the time. A game or two of spectacular play in the SL IMO does not warrant an automatic promotion in a real NBA roster.

Wilt_The_Stilt

Actually I don't know why you are arguing with me. I never mentioned Farmar's defense until my last post, and that was in sarcasm. I never seriously said Farmar is or is not a better defender than Fisher. Just that Fisher himself is a poor defender.

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L.A Guy

Got Fish? dont forget about the .4 shot.

elcap15

We can all ***** back and forth about whether this was good or not, but anyone that doesnt like this deal, what would you have rather done?

Eternal

Most of them already said. They want the young guys to get the playing time between Jordan and Javaris.

Basel57

Personally, I love the signing.

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KennethTo

fisher hasn't played good defense since his first season

I don't care how hard he tries, the guy is crap defensively and gives up at least 20 ppg to any point guard and at least 30 to good point guards. he is ****, plain and simple.

I don't care how much leadership and intangibles he is because the guy can't guard and can't do **** on offense either except a streaky jumpshot

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