koberules24

How in the hell does trading Kobe make the Lakers a championship contender? Please try not to respond to other posts when you are high it just starts stupid arguments.

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urwhatueati8god

Simply stated, the Lakers haven't done anything with Kobe Bryant. They are a mere afterthought in a powerhouse western conference that is dominated by teams that have legitimate forwards or centers like San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, Utah, and Houston. Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown, or Lamar Odom will never come close to even qualifying as an elite player at their position and the Lakers are a team with very few trading cogs. If the team's management can trade Bryant for a talent that they believe will be the next can't miss player at the four or five respectively and still get quality role players that they believe will be in the top eight in their position, then they would engage in those trade talks as it would more than likely lead to a greater success than what they would have now which, since Shaquille O'Neal has been traded, has amounted to one playoff round victory in three years; less than a 25 percent success rate. The logistics are actually pretty simple and were able to be done without a calculator.

On a separate note, ad hominem attacks don't bolster an argument; they only result in the attacker looking more and more like an imbecile every time he or she uses them.

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elcap15

I think its really unfair to group Dr. Buss in with all these others. He helped revolutionize basketball in the modern era and created the most storied basketball franchise ever. Just cuz things are bad now everyone wants to jump ship?

Georgia on th4e other hand is like the real life version of the ***** owner from Major League

DaRizzle

You really sound ignorant putting Dr. Buss on this list. He helped the Lakers give LA 8 championships. Who hired Jerry West? Dr. Buss. Who got Phil Jackson? Dr. Buss. He is the best owner in basketball, end of story. Nobody can come close to what he has accomplished in the past 25 years. You are spoiled!!!

DaRizzle

Don't start dumb threads when you are sober. You put in Dr. Buss but not Donald Sterling. *not needed*

koberules24

Hiring a former star player didn't take much thought (More of a PR move). And clearly he doesn't follow his GM's close enough to know when things are going wrong. JERRY WEST RECRUITED PHIL JACKSON. Jerry West lured Shaquille O'Neal. Jerry West pulled off the steals of the century in draft pick trades for both Magic and Kobe. Just b/c he has to sparingly make his checks out these people instead of the usual bought female companions doesn't make him god. You are naive.

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CDRacingZX6R

It's true.

I think management has made some bad trades over the last few years. Has not made the good trades that were supposedly on the table. So I do burden some of that on Buss and Mitches shoulders.

But no player is off the table. Kobe wanted to be traded. (I think he has some good reasons, he wants to win now, and it's probably not realistic the Lakers are going to win anything any time soon), but he also has to understand that Buss isn't going to trade him for trash.

What Buss said wasn't an attack on Kobe's character, it's the simple truth. Nothing more, nothing less. If Buss can trade Kobe right now and get 2-3 high quality guys to make the Lakers a 50-55 win team next season. I'd say do it. because we lack the parts to be that for the most part right now with Kobe.

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CDRacingZX6R

I think that your mindset is slightly backwards and biased. I don't care who hired who. The truth is in the end, the Laker's organization flourished because Jerry Buss put people who are capable of making choices in power and not those that are not. With the exception of his son maybe, Jim Buss.

We understand that you lust for Kobe to remain a Laker and dominate with 50 point game averages while the Laker's sail into the 7 or 8th spot, only to get annihilated by a superior team that has players who are far better team mates, than individuals.

But you shouldn't let your love for Kobe cloud your love for the Laker's. (Unless you truly just love Kobe, and not the Laker's).

Truth is, Kobe is my favorite player in basketball. He is exciting. Gifted. And probably one of the best players to ever come into the game. He is also a spoiled brat. A cry baby whinnier, that takes no responsibility for team losses when he has from time to time been more at fault then the rest of the team. I have seen him shoot us out of a loss many times, but I have also seen him shoot us into a loss just as many. I have seen him ridicule players for not doing what he thinks is right, then follow it up by taking 40 shots in a game at a pathetic percentage.

I have seen him be anti-social, I have seen him lie. I have seen him rat out team mates, when he is the one that is in trouble. So who are you to judge the moral character of Jerry Buss, when you exclude Kobe from the same accusations?

I've followed Kobe since day one. I support much of what he does, just not all of it. I dont unfairly blame him for Shaq bailing, and always defended him when he was used as the scape goat by the media.

But don't blur the lines. He is a cry baby, hypocrite. He came into the league before he was a man, and acted like a child for most of his career. Even now. Buss has always said it like it is, rather people like it or not, it doesn't matter. He is being honest. If a good deal comes, PER Kobe's request he is out the door. If one doesn't come, then Kobe can cry about it on the bench.

So if you don't like he doesn't want to get married and dates girls that could be his daughters, then boohoo. Ok. Last time I checked its not illegal to date someone under age. I mean Kobe is so much more moral being accused or rape while cheating on his wife on the road. But I guess thats ok because he is an athlete, and your idol.

Try to keep reality in focus.

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CDRacingZX6R

How dare you use logic in a thread like this....

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DaRizzle

Amen...I would also like to add that Dr. Buss brought the Laker Girls into the picture...the first of their kind in basketball. Dr. Buss created the feeling of importance of a basketball game. He made it the place to be in LA!!! Dr. Buss started Prime Ticket so people would be able to follow the team. I think he bought the team for 60mil and now its worth approx. 600mil(Forbes). I would say he is the best owner in the NBA bar none. Koberules (or anyone else)I dare you to tell me a better owner in the NBA and don't even try to argue for Mark Cuban. He's good, but not close to the master...Dr. Buss

DaRizzle

So Dr. Buss is a bad owner because he isn't the GM...thanks for clearing that up. Your man-crush for Kobe is quite strong my friend