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11-13-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
Give it to Bowen or Parker.
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11-13-2007, 08:16 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
Fisher is terrible...everytime..Parker gets an open shot..thats why he had so many points...once Farmar came in..he didnt have any
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11-13-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
I'm so disappointed in tonight's game.
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11-13-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
Not only that. whenever Fish got beat by Parker for a layup, he would try to go right back down the court for a layup of his own and would just give it away. I saw him do this like 3 or 4 times throughout the game.
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11-13-2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
Houston jus lost to Memphis by 7 at home tonight...we are ****ING TOAST TOMORROW...
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11-13-2007, 08:49 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
Lakers also have a terrible record with back to back games. So yeah, thats another L for this wonderfool squad.
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11-13-2007, 09:19 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
Yeah Fisher had an awful game tonight. 
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11-14-2007, 06:53 AM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
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Play Farmar, play Sasha, Fisher is just killing the team's defense, either of those two could stay in front of Parker better. Fish is just too slow.
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How many of you guys still think I was a "hater" but I said said Fisher sucks over and over again entering into the year? I don't hate his game for a reason.
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11-14-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
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How many of you guys still think I was a "hater" but I said said Fisher sucks over and over again entering into the year? I don't hate his game for a reason.
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I still think you are a hater. You are.
In a matchup like last night's, I think you are right, Farmar should get more minutes than Fish. It just makes sense. He matches up better against drive and kick type of players.
But lets not get ahead of ourselves. Parker played 34 minutes and Fish only played 22. That means he was doing it against Farmar too. It would be pretty assanine to say that Parker didnt burn Farmar as well.
I would also like to point out that it was Bowen (Kobe's man) who killed us from the perimeter. Kobe played a lot of "free safety" type defense, which results in a lot of steals and blocks but consequently leaves his man wide open from the corners. Even Parker said in a post game interview that everybody knows Bruce hits shots from the corners. Maybe Kobe didnt get the memo.
I just dont get all the Fisher hate. He didnt have his best game, but neither did half the team, and Parker wouldnt have had as good of a game if he didnt constantly have open people hitting shots from the perimeter. I dont think its fair to blame all the Laker woes on Fisher because you have a man crush on Crittoris.
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11-14-2007, 02:35 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
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I still think you are a hater. You are.
In a matchup like last night's, I think you are right, Farmar should get more minutes than Fish. It just makes sense. He matches up better against drive and kick type of players.
But lets not get ahead of ourselves. Parker played 34 minutes and Fish only played 22. That means he was doing it against Farmar too. It would be pretty assanine to say that Parker didnt burn Farmar as well.
I would also like to point out that it was Bowen (Kobe's man) who killed us from the perimeter. Kobe played a lot of "free safety" type defense, which results in a lot of steals and blocks but consequently leaves his man wide open from the corners. Even Parker said in a post game interview that everybody knows Bruce hits shots from the corners. Maybe Kobe didnt get the memo.
I just dont get all the Fisher hate. He didnt have his best game, but neither did half the team, and Parker wouldnt have had as good of a game if he didnt constantly have open people hitting shots from the perimeter. I dont think its fair to blame all the Laker woes on Fisher because you have a man crush on Crittoris.
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But lets not get ahead of ourselves. Parker played 34 minutes and Fish only played 22. That means he was doing it against Farmar too. It would be pretty assanine to say that Parker didnt burn Farmar as well.
Did you ever watch the game or are just making ******* assumptions based off of some box score you saw today. Parker was raping the lakers when Fisher was on him and him alone, Farmer was containing him, not shutting him down but containing him. I love how homers like you keep making up excuses for Fisher's **** play. He was a **** defender when he was on the team that won the titles and now he is worse. There is a reason why there are jokes about Fisher being the reason PGs get big pay days after playing against him in the playoffs. The twolves old pg's owe their contracts to this man.
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11-14-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
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If you can call people homers, then we can call you a hater; simple as that.
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11-14-2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: GT #6 (11/13): (3-2) Los Angeles Lakers @ (5-1) San Antonio Spurs
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But lets not get ahead of ourselves. Parker played 34 minutes and Fish only played 22. That means he was doing it against Farmar too. It would be pretty assanine to say that Parker didnt burn Farmar as well.
Did you ever watch the game or are just making ******* assumptions based off of some box score you saw today. Parker was raping the lakers when Fisher was on him and him alone, Farmer was containing him, not shutting him down but containing him. I love how homers like you keep making up excuses for Fisher's **** play. He was a **** defender when he was on the team that won the titles and now he is worse. There is a reason why there are jokes about Fisher being the reason PGs get big pay days after playing against him in the playoffs. The twolves old pg's owe their contracts to this man.
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Alright fine, we'll do this the hard way. And just for the record, of course I watch the game. Some parts I watched several times.
Just so I could show you what i was talking about, I went to the play by play from the game, and totalled Parkers' production; what he did while playing against Farmar and what he did while playing against Fisher. Here's what I got:
Fisher vs. Parker
22:45 minutes played against (all of Fishers time on the court)
Parker's production: 20 pts 5 asts = .879 pts/min .220 asst/min
Farmar vs. Parker
7:51 minutes played against ( 21:39 total minutes)
Parker's production: 6 pts 4 assts = .764 pts/min .510 asst/min
Interestingly enough, both of Parker's 2 turnovers came when neither Fish or Farmar were in the game.
Now, I dont know if you will believe in this newfangled thing called math, but the evidence is right there. You can say stupid things like, "you didnt watch the game" or "Parker was raping the lakers when Fisher was on him and him alone" but that doesnt make it true. Of course Fish got beat up by Parker more than farmar, he played 3 times as many minutes against him. But by looking at this, you can see that Farmar allowed more assists/min than Fisher and assists usually come when you get broken off. And I hardly consider .115 pts/min to be anything of significance.
Listen, I said in my previous post that I agree with you in that Farmar should get more minutes against the speedier pt guards in the league. But to demonize Fisher and praise Farmar is just ridiculous.
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Reason: clarity
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