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11-28-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
Can someone explain to me how we know this kid is a future all star?
I readily admit that I dont know much about him but seriously, no one does. His college stats are good but not eye popping. He wasn't drafted until 20th so if he is this amazing talent, some GM's seriously screwed up.
For the record, I think he should be getting some minutes, especially since Sasha really hasnt done much, but did I really just see him compared to Jordan or Drexler? A bit overzealous me thinks.
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11-28-2007, 05:53 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Originally Posted by KennethTo
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...ck=5&cset=true B. Hunt just posted this seperately on another thread
at least Tex agrees with me. You don't bench potential superstars completely. If you have clyde drexler and just drafted Jordan, you make room for Jordan to get minutes.
There is no excuse for not making room for Critt because of a career role player who is a borderline starting PG in fisher.
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There is when Fisher is a better player and you are trying to compete in the playoffs.
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11-29-2007, 05:33 PM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Lol! This coming from the guy that would start a thread if Kobe had gas.
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Yes rant on (guy who posts about Crittenton's feelings). I'd consider another man's gas a hell of lot more deadly than a rookie pouting. What's next an intricate discussion about how the Southern Californian sun hurts Coby Karl's ginger skin? Man I can't wait.
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11-29-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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There is when Fisher is a better player and you are trying to compete in the playoffs.
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The only thing Fisher has experience in is getting burned by the opposing team's PG. Any thing he adds offensively is negated by his defense. I know he is a bad defensive PG because I have watched him get destroyed for the past six to seven years. Him being better is just your opinion. When the opposing PGs routinely score 20 to 35 points w 10 assists using minimum effort, at some point you have to start valuing defense.
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11-29-2007, 10:17 PM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
I know Java beat up on some scrubs tonight, but you can just see his ability to push the ball and break down the defense. I honestly want Java and Farmar on the floor at the same time for spot minutes, and instruct them to just get the ball and run with it.
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11-30-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
Outside of Kobe, Critt is probably our best penetrator and play maker. Defensively, he is big for a PG and very very fast, his feet are always moving so he doesn't get beat or blown by. We saw a glimpse of that last game...
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11-30-2007, 08:39 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Originally Posted by KennethTo
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...ck=5&cset=true B. Hunt just posted this seperately on another thread
at least Tex agrees with me. You don't bench potential superstars completely. If you have clyde drexler and just drafted Jordan, you make room for Jordan to get minutes.
There is no excuse for not making room for Critt because of a career role player who is a borderline starting PG in fisher.
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Potential superstar? Let him play an actual NBA game before throwing out these terms. Crittenton wasn't even close to the best player in college, and hes already being touted as a potential superstar?
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11-30-2007, 08:39 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Originally Posted by elcap15
Can someone explain to me how we know this kid is a future all star?
I readily admit that I dont know much about him but seriously, no one does. His college stats are good but not eye popping. He wasn't drafted until 20th so if he is this amazing talent, some GM's seriously screwed up.
For the record, I think he should be getting some minutes, especially since Sasha really hasnt done much, but did I really just see him compared to Jordan or Drexler? A bit overzealous me thinks.
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I personally like him for the following reasons
1) defense - I don't know how good he can get, but I think at worst, he could be the lakers best defensive PG, on the top scale he can be one of the best in the league. Why? First off he has ideal size for a PG. Secondly he is very fast and willing to expend a lot of effort defensively. If you watch him on defense, he is always in front of his man, usually right behind him. You can't get an open look on the guy.
2) Penetration - he is in the mold of Barbosa and Parker in that he can just burn by opposing PGs. He has ridiculous speed and a good crossver.
3) doesn't settle for jumpers. He is a player that would rather drive to the hoop (ala wade) then sit on the perimeter and shoot jumpers (what most of the Lakers do). because of this he will pressure the other team into either fouling him (and get into foul trouble) or get an easy score/dish
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11-30-2007, 09:03 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Originally Posted by KennethTo
I personally like him for the following reasons
1) defense - I don't know how good he can get, but I think at worst, he could be the lakers best defensive PG, on the top scale he can be one of the best in the league. Why? First off he has ideal size for a PG. Secondly he is very fast and willing to expend a lot of effort defensively. If you watch him on defense, he is always in front of his man, usually right behind him. You can't get an open look on the guy.
2) Penetration - he is in the mold of Barbosa and Parker in that he can just burn by opposing PGs. He has ridiculous speed and a good crossver.
3) doesn't settle for jumpers. He is a player that would rather drive to the hoop (ala wade) then sit on the perimeter and shoot jumpers (what most of the Lakers do). because of this he will pressure the other team into either fouling him (and get into foul trouble) or get an easy score/dish
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4) Ultra competitive - might be the most important thing of all, there are guys that don't care whether or not they win or not, prefer to win and then there are guys that just want to win all the time at everything. In the pre-season you saw an example of this when Critt was absolutely disgusted at losing a PRESEASON game dispite having a good game himself.
5) Hard worker and self motivated - he works hard to improve and learn, probably second to only kobe in the team in this regard. You don't have to tell him to work on his game, he'll do it himself
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11-30-2007, 09:20 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
Rumor has it Java is being hidden to keep him out of trade talks...
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11-30-2007, 09:24 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Rumor has it Java is being hidden to keep him out of trade talks...
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You read my mind! I was thinking the exact same thing!
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11-30-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
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Rumor has it Java is being hidden to keep him out of trade talks...
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That's interesting. Honestly, I don't want to trade him because I just feel it would be a mistake to do so. I think we finally got a steal in the draft, and I want that steal to stay OURS.
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11-30-2007, 09:51 AM
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Re: Crittenton frustrated..
if that's really true, then doug collins did a great job at screwing us over on national television. he mentioned how so many people in the lakers organization were so high on him. how he's quick, strong, and athletic.
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