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02-12-2008, 12:50 PM
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Re: Bynum Progress
andrew and pau haven't even played together yet. im not 100% sold on the two being able to play together.
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02-12-2008, 12:57 PM
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Re: Bynum Progress
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andrew and pau haven't even played together yet. im not 100% sold on the two being able to play together.
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Me either, I mean how often has having two 7 footers that play different positions in the lineup actually worked out?
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02-12-2008, 01:10 PM
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My only concern would be if there's enough shots to go around. But in terms of style, I'm not seeing what the concern is. Pau doesn't WANT to bang with bigs. He would rather be in the high post, shooting jumpshots. Andrew operates 8 ft and in. both are adequate passers, especially pau. I'm much more concerned about Lamar's role than Andrew's.
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02-12-2008, 01:15 PM
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yeah imo, when you think about it, these two guys playing together SHOULD work.. but who knows. im reserving judgment.
but if pau becomes just a shooter alongside bynum, what's the point in having him? pau does actually play in the low post (but yeah yeah, he's still not really a banger), so what would andrew do if he were to operate on offense?
imo, there should never be a moment where either bynum or gasol is NOT on the floor (as in, when bynum is sitting down.. pau will play. and when pau's sitting, bynum will be in).
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02-12-2008, 01:24 PM
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imo, there should never be a moment where either bynum or gasol is NOT on the floor (as in, when bynum is sitting down.. pau will play. and when pau's sitting, bynum will be in).
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Completely agree. In fact, I hope Andrew is consistantly out there with the second unit, where he can do the most damage.
the thing about the Triangle is that nobody really has a "position", you kinda have to know all of them. Pau will be most effective on that weakside "pinch" post. Andrew will of course be most effective on that strongside pivot. They can always switch, or go to pick'n'roll, or whatever. again, I just don't see the complication. As far as offense goes, I'm not sure there is a much better fit at the 4 than Pau, maybe KG. The reason why I was never a big fan of his was his D. But we still have Andrew to get his back (when he returns).
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02-12-2008, 01:37 PM
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Me either, I mean how often has having two 7 footers that play different positions in the lineup actually worked out?
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The Spurs did it with David Robinson and Tim Duncan - Twin towers!
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02-12-2008, 01:41 PM
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The Spurs did it with David Robinson and Tim Duncan - Twin towers!
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Yep. Hakeem Olajuwon and Ralph Sampson were pretty effective too for awhile.
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02-12-2008, 02:07 PM
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That was sarcasm fellas
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02-12-2008, 02:10 PM
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That was sarcasm fellas
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 I guess we didn't quite pick up on that.
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02-12-2008, 02:10 PM
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How many times has two 7 footers NOT worked out well.
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02-12-2008, 02:16 PM
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How many times has two 7 footers NOT worked out well.
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Jon Koncak and Tree Rollins/Kevin Willis didn't exactly set the league on fire.
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02-12-2008, 03:19 PM
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New Deal for Bynum
Bynum, while rehabilitating his injured left kneecap, has been busy with off-the-court matters back home in Los Angeles.
Bynum has signed on with William Morris Agency in Beverly Hills to represent him in off-court marketing and endorsement opportunities.
The group will work in conjunction with Bynum's agent, David Lee, who will continue to work on his client's on-court deals.
Bynum can sign a maximum deal of five years, $75 million this summer with the Lakers.
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02-12-2008, 03:55 PM
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Having two seven footers back in the lineup is going to effect Odom the most. Kobe and Gasol will continue to work on the weakside while Bynum rather than Odom will be spoonfed opportunities on the strong side. Pau and Drew will play well off of each other, but Odom will be pushed further out to the perimeter. These wide open cuts to the lane and 1 on 1 opportunities we're seeing from Lamar will be few and far between. He won't operate with the same freedom. This is why I'm not sold on Odom as a fourth option, unless he can recognize where the ball needs to go and decide quickly. He is hitting wide open jumpers and rotating well defensively which is so far so good. With Odom, how long will this continue?
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02-12-2008, 04:40 PM
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Having two seven footers back in the lineup is going to effect Odom the most. Kobe and Gasol will continue to work on the weakside while Bynum rather than Odom will be spoonfed opportunities on the strong side. Pau and Drew will play well off of each other, but Odom will be pushed further out to the perimeter. These wide open cuts to the lane and 1 on 1 opportunities we're seeing from Lamar will be few and far between. He won't operate with the same freedom. This is why I'm not sold on Odom as a fourth option, unless he can recognize where the ball needs to go and decide quickly. He is hitting wide open jumpers and rotating well defensively which is so far so good. With Odom, how long will this continue?
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Right, but no one will be able to leave Bynum or Gasol or Kobe. That leaves Lamar an easy path to the basket, a wide open look, a dish to our 3 pt threat, or the best case scenario; someone leaves one of the three aforementioned players and Lamar gives it to them to dunk the **** out of it. Its really a good situation anyway you look at it.
What we want from Lamar is his rebounding (which has always been consistant) and good perimeter defense (which has been more or less suspect.) Im thinking he can deliver those aspects, but then again, this is Lamar Odom were talking about. | |