Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
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Originally Posted by Sliccat
Hey Eternal, would you mind putting a duplicate of this in the nuggets' forum? We don't really have a mod.
I'll go ahead and post it in your forum and give credit to Eternal for the layout.
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Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
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Originally Posted by afobisme
camby lacks bulk, but so does gasol... remember how dampier manhandled him? i think twice too. in the two games dampier has played against gasol combined, he score 27 points on him (13.5 a game) and grabbed 28 rebounds (14 per game). he muscled his way in against a soft gasol.
gasol has good footwork and fundamentals... camby may be able to overcome that with his food footwrk on defense.
I don't quite get this post.
Dampier is much bigger than Gasol muscle wise Camby isn't. Gasol was still able to score on Dampier, and he'll score on the thin Camby as well. Camby isn't a post player offensively while Damp is capable of catching and getting deep postion and finishing.
I think other than weakside shot blocking Gasol should have an advantage in the match up. Camby is solid post defense wise man up but not stellar.
Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
Well, I don't feel like typing much. Time to show our worth in the Playoffs after the spectacular season!
Go Lakers!!!
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Originally Posted by duncan2k5
kobe isn't a top tier player in the nba...i would rather have ginobili on the spurs than kobe. easily...also a healthy t-mac, lebron, or wade any day of this or any other lifetime.
i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
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Originally Posted by jazzy1
I don't quite get this post.
Dampier is much bigger than Gasol muscle wise Camby isn't. Gasol was still able to score on Dampier, and he'll score on the thin Camby as well. Camby isn't a post player offensively while Damp is capable of catching and getting deep postion and finishing.
I think other than weakside shot blocking Gasol should have an advantage in the match up. Camby is solid post defense wise man up but not stellar.
the point of my post is to say that gasol is not strong. he's definitely not stronger than camby, so there's no way he can back him down for good positioning. he gets manhandled by a strong big, so there's no way he can push camby around. i don't know where you got the idea where pau gasol was strong, but it's not true.. that's probably why he's not a great rebounder.
i think a guy like camby would defend gasol better than a guy like dampier (but i think dampier might be better with rebounds, since he can push pau around so easily).. camby has good footwork/athleticism/length to contest pau's shots, and he's strong enough to hold his ground.
Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
To set your debate to rest, here how Gasol performs against Camby (since he wears the Nuggets uniform):
In 10 games (I excluded one where Camby came off the bench and played only 10 minutes and one when Gasol played only 15 minutes because the starters rested before the playoffs), Pau averages 17,7 points per game on 50,4% shooting. I'm guessing playing in a lot more potent offense and being the beneficiary of Bryant's double teaming should help him get the otherwise already solid numbers up. But I could be wrong . I'm hoping for the latter of course.
And some research I posted in the General Board thread that makes me feel a bit better going into this series. The record of both of the teams against the other top 7 seeds in the West:
Denver:
10-15 against the other 7 seeds. They've only won one road game; it was on the 6th of December @ Dallas. So whil they're 9-3 at home against the rest of the West's best, they're a dismal 1-12 against those teams on the road. Playing at +5000 feet must have it's benefits, eh?
Los Angeles:
16-9 against the other 7 seeds. Splitting the series with the Hornets (1 home and 1 away loss), Spurs (2 away losses) and losing 1-2 against the Rockets (1 away victory); 3-1 against Dallas (1 away loss), Phoenix (1 home loss) and Utah (1 away loss) and 3-0 against Denver.
peace
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Originally Posted by duncan2k5
kobe isn't a top tier player in the nba...i would rather have ginobili on the spurs than kobe. easily...also a healthy t-mac, lebron, or wade any day of this or any other lifetime.
i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
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Originally Posted by DANNY
man it feels like a month passed by without a laker game
I know! We still got 48 hours!
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Re: Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
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Originally Posted by Plastic Man
To set your debate to rest, here how Gasol performs against Camby (since he wears the Nuggets uniform):
In 10 games (I excluded one where Camby came off the bench and played only 10 minutes and one when Gasol played only 15 minutes because the starters rested before the playoffs), Pau averages 17,7 points per game on 50,4% shooting. I'm guessing playing in a lot more potent offense and being the beneficiary of Bryant's double teaming should help him get the otherwise already solid numbers up. But I could be wrong . I'm hoping for the latter of course.
And some research I posted in the General Board thread that makes me feel a bit better going into this series. The record of both of the teams against the other top 7 seeds in the West:
Denver:
10-15 against the other 7 seeds. They've only won one road game; it was on the 6th of December @ Dallas. So whil they're 9-3 at home against the rest of the West's best, they're a dismal 1-12 against those teams on the road. Playing at +5000 feet must have it's benefits, eh?
Los Angeles:
16-9 against the other 7 seeds. Splitting the series with the Hornets (1 home and 1 away loss), Spurs (2 away losses) and losing 1-2 against the Rockets (1 away victory); 3-1 against Dallas (1 away loss), Phoenix (1 home loss) and Utah (1 away loss) and 3-0 against Denver.
peace
i don't think anything you posted really settles the debate.
assuming that pau would score more with the lakers is an assumption. no absolute truth to it. im not saying youre wrong as it may be true, but not necessarily. pau gets more easy baskets, but he also shoots less.
here are the facts
before the trade, pau averaged 18.9ppg/8.8rbg/3.0apg
after the trade, pau averaged 18.8ppg/7.8rbg/3.5 apg
going by your numbers, if he's average 17.4ppg and 50% fg, then that's about par. with his career average.
oh and everything we've discussed doesn't prove or disprove pau's inability to back camby down in the post for good positioning - the closest thing we have is just observation. camby is probably similar to pau in appearence, but camby is just plain stronger than pau.
Game 1: Los Angeles Lakers (0) vs Denver Nuggets (0) - 4/20
. I'm hoping for the latter of course.
