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05-12-2008, 02:16 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
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What he said.
The only reason we even went to OT was because of Fish and Lamar. We got there in spite of Kobe jacking up horrible shot one after another in the 4th. It's so disapointing to see Kobe revert back this bs. nevermind all the other bad parts about the game, we had a legit shot to steal it, and kobe shot it away. plain and simple.
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Let's no exaggerate, Bryant had 5 assists in the 4th, including 3 drives and kicks for Fisher's treys. The OT is where the blame falls on him, not the 4th (alright a couple of shots didn't have to be taken).
Anyway, there would be nothing sweeter then a complete blowout of the Jazz on Wednesday. I dislike every single player on that team (minus Williams, and even he is starting to get on my nerves with his cocky smiling and claping).
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kobe isn't a top tier player in the nba...i would rather have ginobili on the spurs than kobe. easily...also a healthy t-mac, lebron, or wade any day of this or any other lifetime.
i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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05-12-2008, 03:27 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
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kobe isn't a top tier player in the nba...i would rather have ginobili on the spurs than kobe. easily...also a healthy t-mac, lebron, or wade any day of this or any other lifetime.
i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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05-12-2008, 08:55 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
you know, i feel like no one else on the team was able to create shots... and that's including pau.
i felt that kobe played well for the first 4 quarters of the game. quarters 1-3, he shot higher than 50% and did a good job. in the 4th, he took some bad shots, but it's not like he didn't try to get open looks for his teammates. phil himself said he was upset with the team in overtime because they deferred to him way too much.
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05-12-2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
Seriously Farmer is getting on my nerves. That little chump is having Smush effect every time he steps on the court. The guy makes bad decisions, doesn't pass, I saw once he saw Kobe wide open and ignored him, doesn't play defense, he is a turnover machine. He needs to be benched for a long time.
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05-12-2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
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Seriously Farmer is getting on my nerves. That little chump is having Smush effect every time he steps on the court. The guy makes bad decisions, doesn't pass, I saw once he saw Kobe wide open and ignored him, doesn't play defense, he is a turnover machine. He needs to be benched for a long time.
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well i wouldnt go far as benching him. he just needs to get out of his little funk. it's unfortuate cause his strugggles have been magnified due to the playoff... worse time to be struggling on the basketball court. Also add to fact that he doesnt match up well against the bigger and tougher deron williams. assuming that we move on to the next round, i'm confident he'll play a bigger role against either parker or paul. we're really going to need his quickness.
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05-12-2008, 11:10 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
deron hasn't even been physical with him.. he's just beat jordan with his sheer footspeed. and parker or paul are only going to eat him up even more.
jordan does a poor job of shuffling his feet.. doesn't seem like he's trying that hard to run around screens too.
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05-12-2008, 11:19 AM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
Its hard to win games if you miss that many FT's. The Lakers still came really close. But this was really the difference. You cant shoot 56% from FT line and expect to win.
Basically, any game where the Lakers get more fouls called against them than the Jazz is bull****. Its like the refs are just calling whatever they feel like out there. Apparently, over the back and pushoffs are ok in Utah.
Farmar has to contribute more. He was getting burned so bad by Deron that I was emabarrassed for him. It was pathetic, seriously. He is young, and needs to learn how to mentally get over this slump because with Fisher in early foul trouble, it was like we were playing 4 on 5 out there.
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05-12-2008, 12:08 PM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
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Basically, any game where the Lakers get more fouls called against them than the Jazz is bull****.
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You would think this is a homer comment but it really isnt. Jazz were the most fouling team in the regular season. DW is their only consistent driver of the ball. Take those two things plus Kobe and Odom are slashing all the time...
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05-12-2008, 12:17 PM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
what i find interesting is... im not sure if this time knows how to play without kobe. can it? i mean, besides him, we don't have anyone else that drive the ball.
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05-12-2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
Per LG:
"Phil says he's going to have Sasha as 2nd option as a point guard, reports from John Ireland."
Frankly, I hope it's true and Farmar doesn't play when Deron is on the floor. He is useless. Absolutely useless. He didn't do ONE freaking positive thing in the 19 minutes he played. One. That has to be hard to do.
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kobe isn't a top tier player in the nba...i would rather have ginobili on the spurs than kobe. easily...also a healthy t-mac, lebron, or wade any day of this or any other lifetime.
i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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05-12-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
I dunno...I wasn't really too mad after the game.
See, when you turn the ball over at crucial times,
AND you don't hit free throws,
AND the other team abuses you inside at will,
AND you don't get rebounds,
AND two otherwise reliable players (ie, Radman and Farmar) give you absolutely nothing,
then YOU CAN EXPECT TO LOSE. And thats exactly what the Lakers did.
Its not like they got blown out or outclassed, just errors compounding mistakes, piling up until the results are fatal.
Kobe screwed up, some. Because he often does the incredible, he (and so do you) expects he will keep doing so. But then you watch the other 4 guys standing around spectating...at least get in position to rebound, fellas!
And I'm sorry to say that Gasol is fundamentally soft. Paper-thin, light and finesse. The Lakers get molested in the paint; and unless that gets better quick, I'd expect Utah to take the next game as well.
Listen y'all: theres only two guys on the court with real winning experience; thats Kobe and Fish. These other guys really don't know whats going on. They haven't been through the wars, the bitter rivalries, triumphs and heartbreaks. They got to learn, and sometimes learning involves losing.
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05-12-2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: Game 4: Los Angeles Lakers (2) vs Utah Jazz (1) - 5/11
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I dislike every single player on that team (minus Williams, and even he is starting to get on my nerves with his cocky smiling and claping).
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Yeah...I like DW too. However, that closeup of him smirking and clapping when we went into the penalty really annoyed me too. I say we start Ronnie in place of Radman. Ronnie plays much better defense, he is much tougher than Radman, and he is more tenacious around the basket...which is what we need inside. If he gets in foul trouble...which is a very good possibility...we still have MBenga and Mihm to back up Gasol.
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05-12-2008, 06:39 PM
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