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Re: Official 2009 Lakers Draft/Offseason Thread

^ Haha, jesus that would be great.
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Re: Official 2009 Lakers Draft/Offseason Thread

Here's an idea that I read on Lakersground that makes a lot of sense...

Jordan Farmar
Sasha Vujacic
Adam Morrison
Rights to the 29th pick

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Jamal Crawford


Once Crawford exercises his option, the Warriors will desperately try to deal him, as they have told him that he doesn't fit into their plans. Even though Crawford is scheduled to make $9.3m and $10.6m over the next two years, LA actually saves money next year and has more immediate cash to spend on Ariza, Odom and Brown. Combined, Sasha, Farmar and Morrison make $12.19 next year. In the 2010-2011 season, Crawford will make $10.6m, but Fisher's contract will have expired and Crawford would in all likelihood be the team's new starting PG. Once his contract is up, he'd obviously get a substantial decrease in pay.

For the Warriors, they get a backup PG in Farmar and another shooter in Sasha. If there's any team that still sees decent value in Vujacic, it's the Warriors. They take a lot of threes, and Sasha would be one of their best wing defenders. Morrison is an expiring deal that they can either hang onto or deal. They also gain another youngster with that 29th pick.

Crawford would be an explosive scorer off the bench, he has played the triangle before, and he is desperately in need of a change of scenery. He'd likely get 25-30mpg on our team, and would have a great set of mentors to learn from, in Kobe and Fisher.

PG: Derek Fisher...Jamal Crawford
SG: Kobe Bryant...Shannon Brown...Sun Yue
SF: Trevor Ariza...Luke Walton
PF: Pau Gasol...Lamar Odom...Josh Powell
C: Andrew Bynum...D.J. Mbenga

+ 42nd overall selection
+ 59th overall selection? (Probably not)
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that trade would clean up a lot of mess
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That's what I'm sayin'!

Plus, even though Crawford has his issues at times, I'd feel one hell of a lot better giving $20m to him over two years, rather than $17m to Farmar, Sasha and Morrison.
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Re: Official 2009 Lakers Draft/Offseason Thread

here we go again...

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Re: Official 2009 Lakers Draft/Offseason Thread

I love that trade Damian and would do it in a heartbeat.Crawford takes alot of pressure off of Kobe and can play with Kobe in the Triangle system and start to develop the right work habits and mindset playing with Kobe.He plays bad defense because he's never been asked to dig deep but our system could force him to follow the pack and capitulate to our style of play. Most importantly he could spell Kobe and allow him to get real rest through a long season.

I'm done waiting on Farmar to take Fishers job he loses confidence too easy and has never played well alongside Kobe. He just doesn't fit in the Triangle offense.

And Sasha just hasn't ever leveled off as a player and provided that consistent spark off the bench. He's had a nightmare of a season after getting paid. Time to dump him now.
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Baseless unless Phil's health keeps him away. He mentioned in the parade that he is coming back for another year, thanks to Jeannie Buss.
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I think Phil will be around for a few years. He seems to get bored without coaching, and there's only so much time he can spend up at Flathead Lake.
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Here's an idea that I read on Lakersground that makes a lot of sense...

Jordan Farmar
Sasha Vujacic
Adam Morrison
Rights to the 29th pick

FOR

Jamal Crawford

Once Crawford exercises his option, the Warriors will desperately try to deal him, as they have told him that he doesn't fit into their plans. Even though Crawford is scheduled to make $9.3m and $10.6m over the next two years, LA actually saves money next year and has more immediate cash to spend on Ariza, Odom and Brown. Combined, Sasha, Farmar and Morrison make $12.19 next year. In the 2010-2011 season, Crawford will make $10.6m, but Fisher's contract will have expired and Crawford would in all likelihood be the team's new starting PG. Once his contract is up, he'd obviously get a substantial decrease in pay.

For the Warriors, they get a backup PG in Farmar and another shooter in Sasha. If there's any team that still sees decent value in Vujacic, it's the Warriors. They take a lot of threes, and Sasha would be one of their best wing defenders. Morrison is an expiring deal that they can either hang onto or deal. They also gain another youngster with that 29th pick.

Crawford would be an explosive scorer off the bench, he has played the triangle before, and he is desperately in need of a change of scenery. He'd likely get 25-30mpg on our team, and would have a great set of mentors to learn from, in Kobe and Fisher.

PG: Derek Fisher...Jamal Crawford
SG: Kobe Bryant...Shannon Brown...Sun Yue
SF: Trevor Ariza...Luke Walton
PF: Pau Gasol...Lamar Odom...Josh Powell
C: Andrew Bynum...D.J. Mbenga

+ 42nd overall selection
+ 59th overall selection? (Probably not)
I like that trade. I don't know if I'm big on him running the point for extended periods of time though. I think if he's out there with Kobe you give Kobe the ball in the post. Crawford isn't a great shooter inside the three, but he's pretty good outside the arc, and has the potential to catch fire at any moment. And to play on a team that has a strong leader he won't be as reckless IMO. he's also pretty athletic and a good free throw shooter. But is that the best deal the warriors could make? I'm not sure.

And personally i'd like to see Kobe do what Garnett did. I'd like to see him opt out and take less. He'll make less on his NBA contract per year, but he can re-up for 6 years. But only if they really want to resign Odom and Ariza. He made 45 million the past couple months, and could potentially make the same despite lowering his contract.
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Sorry to rain on the parade, but there is no way that deal ever happens. Why would a team take on more money and not get better players than they give up. That trade is ridiculous, even for the warriors.
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I do agree that we should trade some picks with one of our worse contracts to try and free up some space for Ariza and Odom.

If we keep the pick, Im hoping that Calathes or Collison falls to us.
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Re: Official 2009 Lakers Draft/Offseason Thread

hmm would drafting Daye, and then trading him in a package make sense? Many people see a lot of potential in him, but it doesn't seem like he will be getting picked until late first or 2nd.
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