Does Shaq get a statue? - Page 4 - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

PauloCatarino · 09-04-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Eh disagree. Though I didnt think Goodrich and worthy deserved jersey honors. If they played for the nets or jazz sure, but they weren't transcedenendent lakers.

Jersey retiring got cheapened with what the heat and teams that retire the "6th man" did. Guess statues is the next thing. Watch the magic make a nick Anderson statue now.

Numbers retired:

#13 - Wilt Chamberlain
#22 - Elgin Baylor
#25 - Gail Goodrich
#32 - Earvin "Magic" Johnson
#33 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
#42 - James Worthy
#44 - Jerry West

I would say that the Lakers are one of the most "conservative" franchises with regards on retiring players' numbers.

elcap15 · 09-05-2012, 01:53 PM

The Buss family always says they only retire Hall of Famers' jerseys.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 09-05-2012, 02:10 PM

Nash, Dwight, and Pau are almost locks for HOF. Pau will certainly get his number retired seeing as he was a big cog on two championship teams. Let's say Nash and Dwight play for us for 3-4 years minimum (more for Dwight) but never win a chip. Do we retire their numbers??

elcap15 · 09-05-2012, 02:22 PM

If no championship, I'd say Nash no. Dwight depending on ho long he plays and at what level, yes. I mean, if Dwight carries future teams to the WCF or NBA finals and is winning DPOY then we will probably retire his jersey if he is on the team for like 7 years.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 09-05-2012, 02:37 PM

Ok. Let's say we win it next year and Nash retires. Do we retire it then??

elcap15 · 09-05-2012, 06:34 PM

Id say probably not. One year is not enough. But a HOF who wins a ring for the Lakers makes it a discussion.

**Luke** · 09-05-2012, 07:38 PM

If we won two straight and Nash played at a 2012 level both years then he might potentially have a shot, but it's a long shot.

I would hope that Dwight plays well enough to have his number retired. That would be a monumental disappointment if he doesn't.

**Jamel Irief** · 09-05-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dre

I just feel like that shouldn't be on a curve. Jamel himself said Worthy probably would deserve a retired number on another team which implied he had the ability. Just because the Lakers have a lot of top 15 players doesn't mean the other excellent players don't deserve recognition too. Either you had a great career/had significance or you didn't.

I feel like the lakers need to hold themselves to a higher standard for sure. We don't hang conference or division championship banners when everyone else does. Should we?

**Dre** · 09-05-2012, 08:59 PM

First of all grow up and watch your mouth with the baiting

But one year of relative mediocrity is different then respect for someone who spent give or take a decade busting his ass for your franchise. I can understand a championship organization not respecting division titles, but I don't understand them saying a player who would've been an all-time great anywhere else doesn't stack up to the supremely gifted players we were lucky enough to get.

PauloCatarino · 09-06-2012, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke

If we won two straight and Nash played at a 2012 level both years then he might potentially have a shot, but it's a long shot.

I would hope that Dwight plays well enough to have his number retired. That would be a monumental disappointment if he doesn't.

For a player to have his jersey retired he should be imeddiatly identifiable with the franchise (except in Miami).

Let's say, for arguments sake, that the Lakers win the next 2 championships and then Nash retires. I don't think Nash should have his number retired. 15 years from now, no one would think back at Steve Nash's career saying "yeah, he was a great Laker player"...

**Jamel Irief** · 09-06-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dre

First of all grow up and watch your mouth with the baiting

But one year of relative mediocrity is different then respect for someone who spent give or take a decade busting his ass for your franchise. I can understand a championship organization not respecting division titles, but I don't understand them saying a player who would've been an all-time great anywhere else doesn't stack up to the supremely gifted players we were lucky enough to get.

Are you talking to me with that first sentence???

I swear you think you're more persecuted than Jesus. I've never seen someone so defensive in my life, online or otherwise.

JerryWest · 09-06-2012, 06:22 AM

Shaq deserves nothing in LA after delaying his surgery "on company time." Miami can build a statue for him.

Where's that loser Shaq_Diesel that used to post on the Miami forums? He can push for a Shaq statue there. But no way in hell Shaq ever has a statue here.

elcap15 · 09-06-2012, 08:22 AM

Shaq deserves nothing in LA? Then I guess you dont consider the 3peat championships to have counted either?

JerryWest · 09-06-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by elcap15

Shaq deserves nothing in LA? Then I guess you dont consider the 3peat championships to have counted either?

He demanded a bigger contract with the Lakers while he was willing to do smaller one with Miami, a team he just joined.

He had no loyalties to the Lakers, the org owes nothing to him. He came to get paid, we used him, but he is not a legendary Laker. Worthy is more worthy of a Laker statue than Shaq.

Shaq is just a lazy sack of shit that happened to have great size and agility. He's just a journey man with great athleticism for his size. Don't consider him a Laker.

**Dre** · 09-06-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Are you talking to me with that first sentence???

I swear you think you're more persecuted than Jesus. I've never seen someone so defensive in my life, online or otherwise.

And of course you use that to ignore the rest of what I said. Don't throw stones then try to hide your hands

09-05-2012, 01:53 PM	#47 (permalink)
elcap15 Star Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,573 Rep Power: 1038197	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? The Buss family always says they only retire Hall of Famers' jerseys.

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King Sancho Fantastic -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, California Age: 29 Posts: 9,590 Rep Power: 7193604	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? Nash, Dwight, and Pau are almost locks for HOF. Pau will certainly get his number retired seeing as he was a big cog on two championship teams. Let's say Nash and Dwight play for us for 3-4 years minimum (more for Dwight) but never win a chip. Do we retire their numbers?? __________________ Rumble, young man, rumble...

09-05-2012, 02:22 PM	#49 (permalink)
elcap15 Star Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,573 Rep Power: 1038197	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? If no championship, I'd say Nash no. Dwight depending on ho long he plays and at what level, yes. I mean, if Dwight carries future teams to the WCF or NBA finals and is winning DPOY then we will probably retire his jersey if he is on the team for like 7 years.

09-05-2012, 02:37 PM	#50 (permalink)
King Sancho Fantastic -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, California Age: 29 Posts: 9,590 Rep Power: 7193604	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? Ok. Let's say we win it next year and Nash retires. Do we retire it then?? __________________ Rumble, young man, rumble...

09-05-2012, 06:34 PM	#51 (permalink)
elcap15 Star Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,573 Rep Power: 1038197	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? Id say probably not. One year is not enough. But a HOF who wins a ring for the Lakers makes it a discussion.

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,914 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? If we won two straight and Nash played at a 2012 level both years then he might potentially have a shot, but it's a long shot. I would hope that Dwight plays well enough to have his number retired. That would be a monumental disappointment if he doesn't. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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Dre do better Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 41,325 Rep Power: 21474887	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? First of all grow up and watch your mouth with the baiting But one year of relative mediocrity is different then respect for someone who spent give or take a decade busting his ass for your franchise. I can understand a championship organization not respecting division titles, but I don't understand them saying a player who would've been an all-time great anywhere else doesn't stack up to the supremely gifted players we were lucky enough to get.

09-06-2012, 06:22 AM	#57 (permalink)
JerryWest All-Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,396 Rep Power: 2185328	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? Shaq deserves nothing in LA after delaying his surgery "on company time." Miami can build a statue for him. Where's that loser Shaq_Diesel that used to post on the Miami forums? He can push for a Shaq statue there. But no way in hell Shaq ever has a statue here. __________________ KVBL Basketball Sim, Los Angeles Lakers FRSL, Los Angeles Lakers Season 2 Champs (64-18), Season 4 Champs (66-16), Season 5 Champs (72-10)

09-06-2012, 08:22 AM	#58 (permalink)
elcap15 Star Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,573 Rep Power: 1038197	Re: Does Shaq get a statue? Shaq deserves nothing in LA? Then I guess you dont consider the 3peat championships to have counted either?

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