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**Basel** · 11-02-2012, 09:16 AM

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EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- By virtue of his standing in NBA history and the five NBA championship rings he can choose to wear on any given night, Kobe Bryant can say things his relatively young, less accomplished coach Mike Brown cannot.

Things that former coach Phil Jackson used to say.

"I've won so I can (tell people to shut up)," Bryant said. "For Mike it might be a little tough to say that so I'll say it for him: 'Everybody shut up. Let us work. At the end of the day, you'll be happy with the result as you normally are.' "

Bryant said he's been "amused" by the criticism of the Lakers' new-look Princeton offense as the team got off to its second consecutive 0-2 start despite the offseason acquisitions of Steve Nash and Dwight Howard, comparing it to the team's struggles to learn the Triangle offense when Jackson came to the team in 1999.

While there are important differences between the Princeton offense and the Triangle offense popularized by Jackson on his championship teams in Chicago and Los Angeles, Bryant said the philosophies are similar enough that he has great faith it is the right system to maximize the Lakers' offensive potential.

"I don't understand," Bryant said with a smile when asked about the distress the Lakers' poor start has created amongst the city. "And I'm trying to bite my tongue and not calling them 'dumb,' which I kind of just did.

"But they've seen us win multiple championships here in an offense that was tough to learn, that was a sequence of options that weren't set plays, that took five guys getting on the same page and working together.

"They know how that stuff works, so for them to be so stupid now, for them to say, 'Oh, let Steve dribble the ball around and create opportunities for everybody, or let Dwight post up or let me iso' ... It's, I don't want to say 'idiotic,' but it's close."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...nceton-offense

I'm with Kobe on this. The amount of overreaction I've seen since Tuesday night is incredible. Calm down, relax and remember that it's not how you start, it's how you finish. We're going to be fine in a month or two and nobody will remember this start to the season.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-02-2012, 09:38 AM

A new offense with new players in a banged up preseason is a good reason to have them on a slow start? Stop drinking the kool aid Kobe!

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 11-02-2012, 11:18 AM

I agree with Kobe. Too many chicken littles out there.

**R-Star** · 11-02-2012, 11:23 AM

I watched the video then heard Stephen A pulling his "Well I know Kobes not talking about me, because he has my number and if he was talking about me, he'd be calling me!" then he goes on to say he agrees with Kobe, even though before Kobe said that he was talking about how the Lakers were in trouble.

The guys a worthless piece of shit.

jazzy1 · 11-02-2012, 12:32 PM

lol at the Steven A stuff.

totally healthy I have my concerns and now seeing it 1st hand I am still concerned.Nash has been most successful doing it his way dribbling around and distributing. His only other valuable asset is his ability to zhoot the ball and he's not finding many chances to do that so now his lack of defense is becoming the defining characteristic of his play now.

I would expect Kobe to say what he said he's defiant about everything and he can make adjustments to any style of play change.

But Nash and Metta not so sure. Howard can always post up and they'll break iot to give him those chances but Nash needs the ball more.

when has the Princeton ever won anything. I heard brown say Nash never won doing it his way this way hasn't won shit either.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 11-02-2012, 12:55 PM

That's the thing though. Nash's style of play hasn't won anything either. Even he acknowledges that. The Princeton will hinder his production. Nash has the green light to pick and roll whenever he wants. Brown has said this and so has Nash. Nash himself is forcing the Princeton because he knows that in a seven game series, teams take away what you want to do (Pick and Roll) and the speed of the game slows down. Having a structured half court motion offense will be the key to getting wins in the playoffs. The plan is to install the Princeton. Learn it till its second nature. Once it's learned, Nash can pick and roll, run and gun to his hearts content.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 11-02-2012, 01:06 PM

And the offense was fine against Portland anyways. We scored 106pts on 50% shooting whilst giving up 24 extra possessions in the form of turnovers. The defense needs work.

Cajon · 11-02-2012, 04:17 PM

I'm giving this princeton offense 'til the end of this month. If no substantial improvements are seen then either replace it with a simpler one or sack Coach Brown.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 11-02-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajon

I'm giving this princeton offense 'til the end of this month. If no substantial improvements are seen then either replace it with a simpler one or sack Coach Brown.

Welcome to the boards.

Cajon · 11-02-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

Welcome to the boards.

Gracias!

jazzy1 · 11-02-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

That's the thing though. Nash's style of play hasn't won anything either. Even he acknowledges that. The Princeton will hinder his production. Nash has the green light to pick and roll whenever he wants. Brown has said this and so has Nash. Nash himself is forcing the Princeton because he knows that in a seven game series, teams take away what you want to do (Pick and Roll) and the speed of the game slows down. Having a structured half court motion offense will be the key to getting wins in the playoffs. The plan is to install the Princeton. Learn it till its second nature. Once it's learned, Nash can pick and roll, run and gun to his hearts content.

come on Homie this makes no sense teams don't take away pick and roll thats ridiculous teams take away players who can;t create offense. Every team in the league runs pick and roll every team that won the title has run pick and roll the last 30 years just about.

You don't trade for Nash knowing his skillset and say okay now I'm gonna put you in a system that goes away from your strength's. A system that no one has won a title with.

11-02-2012, 09:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jamel Irief KING OF THE INTERWEBZ! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Watching the Lakers Age: 96 Posts: 20,212 Rep Power: 14125348	A new offense with new players in a banged up preseason is a good reason to have them on a slow start? Stop drinking the kool aid Kobe! __________________

11-02-2012, 11:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
King Sancho Fantastic -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, California Age: 29 Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 7193604	Re: Kobe to Critics: "Shut Up" I agree with Kobe. Too many chicken littles out there. __________________ Rumble, young man, rumble...

11-02-2012, 11:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,909 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Kobe to Critics: "Shut Up" I watched the video then heard Stephen A pulling his "Well I know Kobes not talking about me, because he has my number and if he was talking about me, he'd be calling me!" then he goes on to say he agrees with Kobe, even though before Kobe said that he was talking about how the Lakers were in trouble. The guys a worthless piece of shit. __________________

11-02-2012, 12:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
jazzy1 All-Star Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 9,423 Rep Power: 587126	Re: Kobe to Critics: "Shut Up" lol at the Steven A stuff. totally healthy I have my concerns and now seeing it 1st hand I am still concerned.Nash has been most successful doing it his way dribbling around and distributing. His only other valuable asset is his ability to zhoot the ball and he's not finding many chances to do that so now his lack of defense is becoming the defining characteristic of his play now. I would expect Kobe to say what he said he's defiant about everything and he can make adjustments to any style of play change. But Nash and Metta not so sure. Howard can always post up and they'll break iot to give him those chances but Nash needs the ball more. when has the Princeton ever won anything. I heard brown say Nash never won doing it his way this way hasn't won shit either.

11-02-2012, 12:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
King Sancho Fantastic -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, California Age: 29 Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 7193604	Re: Kobe to Critics: "Shut Up" That's the thing though. Nash's style of play hasn't won anything either. Even he acknowledges that. The Princeton will hinder his production. Nash has the green light to pick and roll whenever he wants. Brown has said this and so has Nash. Nash himself is forcing the Princeton because he knows that in a seven game series, teams take away what you want to do (Pick and Roll) and the speed of the game slows down. Having a structured half court motion offense will be the key to getting wins in the playoffs. The plan is to install the Princeton. Learn it till its second nature. Once it's learned, Nash can pick and roll, run and gun to his hearts content. __________________ Rumble, young man, rumble...

11-02-2012, 01:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
King Sancho Fantastic -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, California Age: 29 Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 7193604	Re: Kobe to Critics: "Shut Up" And the offense was fine against Portland anyways. We scored 106pts on 50% shooting whilst giving up 24 extra possessions in the form of turnovers. The defense needs work. __________________ Rumble, young man, rumble...

11-02-2012, 04:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cajon First Round Draft Pick Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,092 Rep Power: 163097	Re: Kobe to Critics: "Shut Up" I'm giving this princeton offense 'til the end of this month. If no substantial improvements are seen then either replace it with a simpler one or sack Coach Brown.

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