Game #15: Pacers (6-8) @ Lakers (7-7) - Page 10 - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**Basel** · 11-27-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilt_The_Stilt

I missed the 1st half. Hopefully I don't regret watching the second.

On a side note, is this going to be the longest non-playoff game thread in Laker forum history?

Very possible. It's too bad the Lakers don' t always play the Pacers. Long game threads are so much more fun.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 11-27-2012, 08:43 PM

Pau needs to wake the **** up!

**Jamel Irief** · 11-27-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Basel

I've grown to just be used to Stu. He says crazy things all the time.

"Grown"? Hes been doing this since the late 80's?

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Originally Posted by R-Star

There's been plenty of post feeds. There's less now because you guys have been shut down in the post.

I think I could count on one hand how many times in the second quarter Dwight, Metta, Pau, and even Kobe were fed the ball with their back to the basket in the second quarter. Only guy I remember doing it was Tawn.

Kobe is bringing the ball up the court and pulling up from 15-18 almost every time.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-27-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy1

this isn't Kobe's fault its Pau being abused on both ends, Metta not doing shit and basically ignoring Howard in the post which is par for the course in Dantoni's offense.

Kobe once he sat down was done. We could still win if someone else figures out how to use their brain and run some good offense away from saying Kobe you take it. Because Kobe will always take it.

That's why I think they would of been better off without him. Kobe won't control himself and as long as he's out there his teammates will count on him. Sit him and let them get some rthym and energy going.

**Gonzo** · 11-27-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

With Lance doubling his minutes and being a starter? Yea, lets look at that.

Lets also look at how Lance stagnates shit when he decides we're in a scoring slump and dominates the ball, or how he's a terrible defender, or how he makes some of the worst basketball IQ plays I've ever seen.

Sounds like every player on our team. Ever noticed how many players stand around the perimeter? Or how Hansbrough likes to dominate the ball in a slump despite being a PF. Oh and Gerald Green has quite the comparable IQ, maybe even worse. He also likes to dominate the ball. Augustin loves to chuck a 3 when we're in a drought too, pretty sure he did that tonight like everyone else.

You're just focusing in on Lance. Let's just agree to disagree and come together and blame this on Frank Vogel's shitty coaching.

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If you're actually going to sit there and say Hibbert isn't a good defender, then I don't know what to tell you man.

Blocks aren't everything my friend. He's terrible at rotating, often gets dominated inside by guys stronger than him, and is not a good rebounder despite being one of the tallest guys on the floor.

Just because he can block shots doesn't mean he should be First Team All Defense. He seems like the kid who grew a shit ton without ever having played basketball and was recruited by a team desperate for a tall guy.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 11-27-2012, 08:49 PM

I still would rather have Noah over Hibbert.

**Gonzo** · 11-27-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

I'd still would rather have Noah over Hibbert.

Me too, bro... Me too.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-27-2012, 08:50 PM

On the bright side I really enjoyed watching Stephenson play in the first half. I hope Pacer fans appreciate all the intangibles he brings. True gem to have on your team, at a 20th of Hibbert's salary.

**R-Star** · 11-27-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Sounds like every player on our team. Ever noticed how many players stand around the perimeter? Or how Hansbrough likes to dominate the ball in a slump despite being a PF. Oh and Gerald Green has quite the comparable IQ, maybe even worse. He also likes to dominate the ball. Augustin loves to chuck a 3 when we're in a drought too, pretty sure he did that tonight like everyone else.

You're just focusing in on Lance. Let's just agree to disagree and come together and blame this on Frank Vogel's shitty coaching.

Blocks aren't everything my friend. He's terrible at rotating, often gets dominated inside by guys stronger than him, and is not a good rebounder despite being one of the tallest guys on the floor.

Just because he can block shots doesn't mean he should be First Team All Defense. He seems like the kid who grew a shit ton without ever having played basketball and was recruited by a team desperate for a tall guy.

As far as Green and Augustin, I agree. But they're coming off the bench. That's the kind of shit you get from bench players, and its where Lance should be. He's not good, and he sure as hell isn't a starter.

As far as Hibbert, we're the best rebounding team in the league, and he's our top rebounder. I don't agree that hes a bad rebounder just because stats say so. And bad at rotating and getting dominated inside? Who's dominated us inside? Howard has got a few and that's about it. Roy has been the main force for us shutting down the paint. You can't just look at a couple highlight plays of him getting beat in the paint and decide he's no good. Hes one of the best big man defenders in the game. Hes had a couple terrible games, but buy and large hes one of the better ones in the league.

**R-Star** · 11-27-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

I still would rather have Noah over Hibbert.

Terrible.

**R-Star** · 11-27-2012, 08:53 PM

Thanks Roy. Really making it hard to defend you here.

**Basel** · 11-27-2012, 08:55 PM

Morris sucks.

**R-Star** · 11-27-2012, 08:55 PM

Exhibit A on Hibbert being a good defender Gonzo.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-27-2012, 08:55 PM

This game is so ugly that people are debating about lance stephenson

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**Basel** · 11-27-2012, 08:56 PM

Maybe that'll get MWP going. We need a spark from somewhere.

11-27-2012, 08:43 PM	#137 (permalink)
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11-27-2012, 08:49 PM	#141 (permalink)
King Sancho Fantastic -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, California Age: 29 Posts: 9,575 Rep Power: 7193604	Re: Game #15: Pacers (6-8) @ Lakers (7-7) I still would rather have Noah over Hibbert. __________________ Rumble, young man, rumble...

11-27-2012, 08:50 PM	#143 (permalink)
Jamel Irief KING OF THE INTERWEBZ! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Watching the Lakers Age: 96 Posts: 20,194 Rep Power: 14125348	Re: Game #15: Pacers (6-8) @ Lakers (7-7) On the bright side I really enjoyed watching Stephenson play in the first half. I hope Pacer fans appreciate all the intangibles he brings. True gem to have on your team, at a 20th of Hibbert's salary. __________________

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,846 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Game #15: Pacers (6-8) @ Lakers (7-7) Thanks Roy. Really making it hard to defend you here. __________________

11-27-2012, 08:55 PM	#147 (permalink)
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11-27-2012, 08:55 PM	#148 (permalink)
R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,846 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Game #15: Pacers (6-8) @ Lakers (7-7) Exhibit A on Hibbert being a good defender Gonzo. __________________

11-27-2012, 08:55 PM	#149 (permalink)
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11-27-2012, 08:56 PM	#150 (permalink)
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