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Old 12-09-2012, 11:34 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:41 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Gee, I guess Pau wasn't the problem after all.

1-3 without him.

Pau, wear any pants you wish.
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Panicking!!!! seriously, defense
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:25 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Panicking!!!! seriously, defense


We know the Lakers defense. D. Green is right. They are what we thought they were, and right now, this ****ing team doesn't (or can't) play defense. Here is a twitter quote tonight that says it all.


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Old 12-10-2012, 05:51 AM   #50 (permalink)
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that's just it - they arent playing up on the ball on the perimeter at all - you cant enjoy the dwight effect if you arent extending pressure and playing aggressively
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:04 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Whoopi Goldberg would do a better job coaching the team. The Buss family deserves every bit of this. Yeah, trade for Howard and then put him in a system that minimizes his impact - brilliant! May as well have kept Mike freaking Brown.
He's taking 2 shots less than he did on his highest use seasons in Orlando, where he had little help on offense.


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And who's fault is it that hes been average defensively? The coaches?


You guys seem to be pussy footing around this, but this team doesn't seem like it fits well together. Quit blaming the coaches at every turn.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:10 AM   #52 (permalink)
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without nash or pau they're still a top 10 offensive team in terms of ppg and ppp(ossession) - it's defense, and you're right about Howard, he's still not right and he's still not playing close to where he was with orlando on defense
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Or people undervalue what Stan Van did for that team. The team played a very defense first mindset.

Much like Frank Vogel does for Indy. It doesn't always mean its a good thing.
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He's taking 2 shots less than he did on his highest use seasons in Orlando, where he had little help on offense.


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And who's fault is it that hes been average defensively? The coaches?


You guys seem to be pussy footing around this, but this team doesn't seem like it fits well together. Quit blaming the coaches at every turn.
But it's easy to blame coaches! It doesn't take as much critical thinking and analysis!

Whatever coach the Lakers don't have, THAT'S the one that will fix everything!
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:56 PM   #55 (permalink)
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But it's easy to blame coaches! It doesn't take as much critical thinking and analysis!

Whatever coach the Lakers don't have, THAT'S the one that will fix everything!
I think the only thing that would have solved that is if Phil actually did come and they played the same shit basketball.


No one on here would really claim him of being a shit coach, so the players would finally have to take some heat.
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Re: Game #21: Jazz (11-10) @ Lakers (9-11)

If they are a bad fit together, I don't think it's a huge deal. The Heat made it to the finals their first year with the big 3, clearly not fitting well together.

I still believe the Lakers have a better natural fit than the Heat did/do, perhaps with the exception of the Pauward dilemma.
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If they are a bad fit together, I don't think it's a huge deal. The Heat made it to the finals their first year with the big 3, clearly not fitting well together.

I still believe the Lakers have a better natural fit than the Heat did/do, perhaps with the exception of the Pauward dilemma.
The Lakers aren't the Heat though. They don't have the "its ok, there's always next year" luxury. Kobe is old, Pau is getting there, and Nash is just old as shit. And if they implode this year, who's to say that smiling asshole Dwight even stays?


They won't have a year in quite some time that's better for them than right now. They need to figure this shit out.
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Re: Game #21: Jazz (11-10) @ Lakers (9-11)

Dwight's staying. He's more interested in money and the spotlight than winning. No team can offer either of those more.

And my argument there was centered around the Heat having made the Finals regardless of the misfitting, despite not consummating. Lakers have a much tougher road with Memphis, LA, SA, and OKC in their way, but they certainly have the talent up top to make a run when it matters.
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I think the only thing that would have solved that is if Phil actually did come and they played the same shit basketball.


No one on here would really claim him of being a shit coach, so the players would finally have to take some heat.
Eh some would. When Phil was fired in 2004 some posters in here said good riddance. When Phil retired in 2011 Ron said good riddance.

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Re: Game #21: Jazz (11-10) @ Lakers (9-11)

Or if you're doctordrizzay, the running mate to your man crush (Wade).
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