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Old 12-11-2012, 07:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: The Kobe Factor

The Lakers had 11 assists tonight. Kyrie Irving by himself had 11.
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didnt see the game but I know you cant get dimes from the free throw line and it looks like hack-a-dwight was in full effect
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Stupid stat. Lakers wouldn't even be in these games if Kobe wasn't doing what he was doing. Tonight Kobe was 16/28 shooting. The rest of the team was 15/47. But let's blame Kobe for our losses.
So what you are saying is that the rest of the team only shoots well when Kobe is not so selfish?
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Like Twain said there's two kinds of lies: Damn lies and statistics. You can make stats say whatever you wish.

Ron, you have the wrong stats. What you should count is the record when the others shoot 40% or better, 50% or better etc...

When you have two starters combine for 4 pts and Artest is your third option, Kobe could score 81 and it wouldn't work.
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So what you are saying is that the rest of the team only shoots well when Kobe is not so selfish?
Who exactly should he be passing to ?

And what does that have to do with getting back on defense which is the real problem ?
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didnt see the game but I know you cant get dimes from the free throw line and it looks like hack-a-dwight was in full effect
Hack-A-Dwight wasn't in effect at all.
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So what you are saying is that the rest of the team only shoots well when Kobe is not so selfish?
Just because Kobe doesn't have the assist numbers, it doesn't mean he's being selfish. Did it ever occur to you he passes but his teammates just aren't hitting?
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Like Twain said there's two kinds of lies: Damn lies and statistics. You can make stats say whatever you wish.

Ron, you have the wrong stats. What you should count is the record when the others shoot 40% or better, 50% or better etc...

When you have two starters combine for 4 pts and Artest is your third option, Kobe could score 81 and it wouldn't work.
That's my whole point. There are a limited amount possessions.

What comes first, the chicken or the egg? Are the Lakers really going to score 37 points for the entire game if Kobe misses the Indiana game? Get real.
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Just because Kobe doesn't have the assist numbers, it doesn't mean he's being selfish. Did it ever occur to you he passes but his teammates just aren't hitting?
And did it ever occur to you that he isn't passing and his teammates cannot get into the flow of the game?

It cuts both ways.
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Just because Kobe doesn't have the assist numbers, it doesn't mean he's being selfish. Did it ever occur to you he passes but his teammates just aren't hitting?
Basel you don't have to argue. Just give a link to the box score where two starters went 2/8 in about 60 mins of action. No one did anything of significance outside of Kobe and Howard.

They would be better grabbing three kids from the D-League, at least they would get back on defense !
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And as I said above, if you apply that kind of logic, the Lakers score only 52 points tonight. And 37 against Indiana.

Obviously, that's ridiculous. But the bigger question is: Will this team PLAY as a TEAM if Kobe continues to shoot lights out?
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Basel you don't have to argue. Just give a link to the box score where two starters went 2/8 in about 60 mins of action. No one did anything of significance outside of Kobe and Howard.

They would be better grabbing three kids from the D-League, at least they would get back on defense !
You ever play the game? You ever stand around when someone else is hogging the ball, no matter how good they are? Besides being irritated, how was your ability to make baskets when you finally (if ever) got the ball into your own hands?
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And did it ever occur to you that he isn't passing and his teammates cannot get into the flow of the game?

It cuts both ways.
He IS passing, though. Maybe not like a PG since that isn't his job, but he's passing. When his teammates aren't hitting (which has often been the case), that's when he starts to shoot more and score a lot.
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He IS passing, though. Maybe not like a PG since that isn't his job, but he's passing. When his teammates aren't hitting (which has often been the case), that's when he starts to shoot more and score a lot.
Which somehow translates into losses just about every time. It is quite clear "hero ball" doesn't work with this team.

Add that to an atrocious defense and we are 9-13.
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The Lakers had 11 assists tonight. Kyrie Irving by himself had 11.
Thanks for the insight Adam.
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