Interesting article on Kobe's (horrible) defensive play this season - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

e-monk · 01-11-2013, 05:37 PM

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Kobe is not (solely) responsible for the Lakers' struggles. In fact, I'd list the inability of Howard to erase the roster's defensive weaknesses, the crazy injury situation, and Gasol's deterioration, in that order, as the primary reasons for failure on the court. But Kobe is the only person who can ruin Kobe Bryant's historic season, because he is the only one who can invalidate its merits. And Kobe Bryant's defense is completely invalidating his unprecedented offensive success.
To call Kobe Bryant's defense this season bad is to call the Pacific Ocean big, or the sun hot. He hasn't just been bad and he's not just a liability. His presence on the defensive end of the court has actually become a detriment, in the truest sense of the word. And the worst part? He's not failing to play defense. He has willingly decided that he no longer needs to try

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2...istoric-season

**Ron** · 01-11-2013, 06:14 PM

All true, he has been tanking all year on defense just so his offensive numbers are through the roof.

It's the main reason the Lakers' defense is ****ing horrible.

**Jamel Irief** · 01-11-2013, 06:54 PM

I wouldn't say he's tanking. When his man has the ball he actually puts out a decent effort. But he's doing his hero shit on both ends of the court, and ignores his man when he doesn't have it because he wants to stop everyone else.

e-monk · 01-11-2013, 07:11 PM

I dont think you read the article, it details some plays from recent games where he's clearly doing no such thing - he's just stopping or never even starting

**R-Star** · 01-11-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

All true, he has been tanking all year on defense just so his offensive numbers are through the roof.

It's the main reason the Lakers' defense is ****ing horrible.

Dwight, the supposed DPOY of our generation, has been no better.

e-monk · 01-11-2013, 07:22 PM

no seriously read the article, it's pretty damning in the particulars - Dwight's at least not standing in the same spot the entire series watching his guy from 20 feet away

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Wednesday night's game against the Spurs was probably Kobe's worst defensive display of the season. Since a picture is worth a 1000 words, here's 10,000 words worth of evidence:
Play 1 - Ball Watching

We start off in the beginning of your typical San Antonio Spurs set. Tony Parker has the ball, Tim Duncan is ready to set a screen, and everybody else is behind the three point line. Kobe's defensive responsibility is some Argentinian scrub named Manu Ginobli.

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The screen is set, the help defender is helping. Nothing to see here.

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Help defender still helping, original defender has gotten between the basket and the screener. The corner defenders have collapsed to the paint. This is pretty typical stuff. But things are about to get ugly. Take a look at the three pictures we've presented so far. Notice anything? Kobe Bryant hasn't moved ... like at all. He's standing in the exact same spot he was when the possession started. Sorry, I apologize. He has moved. After all, the ball went from the top of the circle to the paint, and he did turn his head to watch that event happen.

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Having spent the entire possession being completely ignored, Manu Ginobli picks the appropriate time to run by a completely unaware Kobe Bryant. With the big man covering Parker into the lane and nobody else on the active roster over 6'7", Manu has a completely uncontested dunk.

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My favorite part: Kobe Bryant, just enjoying the view as his defensive responsibility lays the ball easily in the basket. Look, people get back doored from time to time. As a defender in a team concept, you are supposed to pay attention to a lot of things all at once, and sometimes you lose sight of your primary responsibility. It happens. It happens way, way too often to Kobe these days, and we could easily grab a few more examples from this or any other game the Lakers play, but that's not the problem. Look at Kobe in picture one. Now back to Kobe here. Now back to picture one. Now back to here. Over the entirety of this defensive possession, Kobe Bryant took ONE step. Kobe didn't get back-doored because he was worried about helping. He didn't get back-doored because he was worried about rotating at the right time. He got back-doored because, on this defensive possession, he chose to be a spectator.
But wait, it gets worse ...

rocketeer · 01-11-2013, 08:11 PM

kobe's still going to make an all nba defensive team, so it doesn't really matter, right?

Adam · 01-11-2013, 08:30 PM

He hasn't been a great defender for years. This isn't news.

e-monk · 01-11-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

He hasn't been a great defender for years. This isn't news.

will you read the damn article? - it's not about can it's about choosing not to - are you just trying to add to your post count?

**Ron** · 01-11-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketeer

kobe's still going to make an all nba defensive team, so it doesn't really matter, right?

This might be the most nonsensical post I have seen in the past several years.

**Ron** · 01-11-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

He hasn't been a great defender for years. This isn't news.

Another pathetic post. Come on Adam...he has made all-defensive for years he has deserved it. He obviously won't get there this year.

**Ron** · 01-11-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by e-monk

will you read the damn article? - it's not about can it's about choosing not to - are you just trying to add to your post count?

You are wasting your typing fingers e-monk...haters are always gonna hate.

Besides, the article is too long and the letters are too small for them to keep their interest.

rocketeer · 01-11-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

This might be the most nonsensical post I have seen in the past several years.

yeah, that's what that was

Adam · 01-11-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Another pathetic post. Come on Adam...he has made all-defensive for years he has deserved it. He obviously won't get there this year.

Clipper Darryl is flaming me. Daaaaaamn.

**R-Star** · 01-12-2013, 05:21 AM

Ooohhh, look at this, Adam's a bad boy now that he's not a mod anymore.

Look out everyone.

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Ron Site Founder Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brea, California Posts: 14,562 Rep Power: 2734398	Re: Interesting article on Kobe's (horrible) defensive play this season All true, he has been tanking all year on defense just so his offensive numbers are through the roof. It's the main reason the Lakers' defense is ****ing horrible.

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Jamel Irief KING OF THE INTERWEBZ! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Watching the Lakers Age: 96 Posts: 20,196 Rep Power: 14125348	Re: Interesting article on Kobe's (horrible) defensive play this season I wouldn't say he's tanking. When his man has the ball he actually puts out a decent effort. But he's doing his hero shit on both ends of the court, and ignores his man when he doesn't have it because he wants to stop everyone else. __________________

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e-monk All-Star Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,673 Rep Power: 3274359	Re: Interesting article on Kobe's (horrible) defensive play this season I dont think you read the article, it details some plays from recent games where he's clearly doing no such thing - he's just stopping or never even starting

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rocketeer Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Age: 27 Posts: 13,703 Rep Power: 9760468	Re: Interesting article on Kobe's (horrible) defensive play this season kobe's still going to make an all nba defensive team, so it doesn't really matter, right? __________________ Rodney Rogers!!!!!

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,865 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Interesting article on Kobe's (horrible) defensive play this season Ooohhh, look at this, Adam's a bad boy now that he's not a mod anymore. Look out everyone. __________________

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