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Old 01-24-2013, 03:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

If they don't make a major deal by the deadline, I think we may be looking at a similar roster next season. I think they probably should trade Howard by the deadline though. If the team somehow gets to or above .500 by the deadline and Howard looks impressive in that run, then maybe hold off on that trade.

Last Summer some of the potential negatives to the deals they were making seemed too remote to be real. Some questions briefly went through my head like, 'What if they get hit by injuries this season, miss the playoffs, and that pick gets (un)lucky and goes number 1? Is Nash worth that pick, even in a weak draft?', or 'What if the team gets hit by injuries and Dwight seeks greener pastures as a FA?' Of course both before and after those thoughts, came the thought, 'This is their best chance to get another one with Kobe. They have to go for it.'

Now since things are clearly headed in the worst direction possible, another thought comes to mind, 'What if not only their pick ends up in the top 3, but Howard leaves for nothing or worse, he re-signs and continues to accumulate injuries, becoming a shell of his former self at max salary, while dooming the team to overpriced mediocrity for the length of his contract and repeated beatings by the Suns and their top 3 pick/future MVP. Aaaahhhh!' Unfortunately the draft pick is already gone, and there's no way to make sure it won't end up in the lottery. A Howard trade could actually increase the chance of missing the playoffs, but somehow I don't think so. If rebuilding mode is beginning, more assets will be needed, and a Howard trade appears to be the only way to get there. Unlike the Summer of 2012, in the Winter of '13 the positive Laker thoughts do not come even close to drowning out the negative ones. Maybe this team will return next year with a huge chip on its shoulder and win it all with Dwight carrying the load, but it seems as though he is both incapable of carrying a team and unwilling to let others do the carrying. If there is any possible way to pick up some decent up-n-coming team-oriented talent and possibly future 1st round picks for Howard, I think it should be done. And it's still a little hard to believe that it has gotten to this.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:42 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

So Howard says this after yesterdays game.

"It felt real bad. I didn't want to try to play through it because I didn't want to hurt it any worse, so (the Lakers' training staff) asked me not to play. ... I'll see what he says and then go from there"


Sooooo..... he says he didn't want to play through it because hes a bitch, but then follows that up by saying the training staff wouldn't let him go back in? You asked not to go back in you ****ing idiot.


I hate this guy. You guys need to get rid of him. I've come to like the Lakers outside of this chump.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:46 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

did you see the contact that caused it? maybe it was because my wife had just shown me a video of hits from her Derby league but I have to say honestly Ive seen women who were 10 times tougher than this guy
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did you see the contact that caused it? maybe it was because my wife had just shown me a video of hits from her Derby league but I have to say honestly Ive seen women who were 10 times tougher than this guy
Hard to say how tough he is since the injury is a blatant fake to excuse him playing like shit.

I still haven't seen it, but supposedly it was from Rudy Gay? That's like if Lebron said he got hurt from fighting for a rebound with Darren Collison or something.

Dwight is a physical freak. He shouldn't be getting injured on regular plays with a small forward. Hes just a faker and a child is all.
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

Just watched it on YouTube. So there's no contact at all? He just lazily goes up to try to contend a Rudy Gay jumper, turns around and see's it goes in, and all the sudden starts patting his shoulder like "Take me out, take me out."

Wow. I just assumed it was fake since it was Dwight, but after seeing it, yea, that's obviously an extremely fake injury. Either that, or he isn't even able to do the most run of the mill, least intensive basketball plays required.

I think both answers are equally as bad.
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

Crazy thing is just a week ago I thought LA might have a legit shot to make the playoffs still, based on the way that Houston, Portland, and Minnesota were all losing games.

But since they aren't even beating teams like the Raptors, they're likely to miss the playoffs. Gotta trade Dwight in that scenario, b/c I don't trust that the banners hanging in the rafters are enough of an argument to keep him where he is.
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Crazy thing is just a week ago I thought LA might have a legit shot to make the playoffs still, based on the way that Houston, Portland, and Minnesota were all losing games.

But since they aren't even beating teams like the Raptors, they're likely to miss the playoffs. Gotta trade Dwight in that scenario, b/c I don't trust that the banners hanging in the rafters are enough of an argument to keep him where he is.
And the thing is, the guy sulks when things don't go well. He's already bitchy that everything isn't about how awesome Dwight Howard the savior is, and the fact there's no way they win a title this year. He knows hes already seen as a huge failure this year, and with how mentally fragile he is that's probably destroying him.

I just can't see him staying at this point.


That's all personal opinion obviously, but the guy showed his true colors in Orlando last year, and its not like his recent antics have given anyone any faith that he's changed.
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

Im saying Horford, Louis Williams or Jeff Teague, Morrow or Stevenson(filler) a pick or two (they're sitting on a few) - let's do it!
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Im saying Horford, Louis Williams or Jeff Teague, Morrow or Stevenson(filler) a pick or two (they're sitting on a few) - let's do it!
Makes sense.

You have to wonder if Lakers management is willing to admit this hasn't worked out though as well. They may be too stubborn to do it and wait until the offseason if they're going to trade him. Then they can do it under the pretext of "He was going to leave" instead of "We made a mistake"
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Makes sense.

You have to wonder if Lakers management is willing to admit this hasn't worked out though as well. They may be too stubborn to do it and wait until the offseason if they're going to trade him. Then they can do it under the pretext of "He was going to leave" instead of "We made a mistake"
Assuming that Dwight will sign an extension in a trade(I know, big if), and that Dwight wants to leave, who says no to Pekovic and Derrick Williams for Dwight?
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Assuming that Dwight will sign an extension in a trade(I know, big if), and that Dwight wants to leave, who says no to Pekovic and Derrick Williams for Dwight?
Pek and Williams would be nice, but I would see LA pushing for Love. Even though they should have learned their lesson about just randomly throwing stars together.
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

I feel like the Wolves are going to go all-in on trying to keep Love, and even though Dwight's damaged goods at this point, getting him would be one of those moves that really impresses the players. I don't think they trade Love unless he refuses to sign an extension in a year or two.
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Re: The Lakers WON'T make the playoffs (what's next?)!

I like the atlanta deal better just because I have a feeling that dwight would be ok with it (and wouldnt throw a monkey wrench into the process) and the hawks have smith and are obviously trying to set the table for this kind of deal - also horford's contract isnt terrible and the hawks are sitting on a few decent draft picks
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No one is going to trade for a center with a bad back and bad shoulder, he's damaged goods.

Get real, people. We are stuck with the Dwightmare for the foreseeable future.
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No one is going to trade for a center with a bad back and bad shoulder, he's damaged goods.

Get real, people. We are stuck with the Dwightmare for the foreseeable future.
I think you're giving too much credit to GM's. ATL would trade for him, if alone just to create buzz for the team. And I think most GM's realize his shoulder is fine, whether or not they see faking an injury is worse than actually having one probably differs on which GM you ask.
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