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EVERYBODY WINS!!!!!!!!

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bwell

While it may seem one sided, the main objective seems to be "get Jason outta here!'
Consider the supposed Damon signing, and you are basically switching Posey for EJ. I would rather have Posey, but that must be an indication of how much Jerry and Fratello don't want Jason.

Cinco de Mayo

Eddie Jones...?

He'll be a valuable expiring contract in 2007, I suppose, but the guy's a shell of himself.

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Zeus

hardly. look at his stats.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/eddie_jones/index.html

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"You can put Shane on anybody and Shane won't back off," Brown said. "Every team should have five Shane Battiers'. They would be great." - Grizzlies coach Hubie Brown

Cinco de Mayo

Wow, Shaq joined his team, and his average only dropped by 5 ppg? Naw, he's just as good as ever!

I'm not saying he's totally washed up, but he's dropped off, and I'd rather not have a guy with a max contract coming off the bench, when we've got guys like Dahntay Jones trying to find minutes.

I wouldn't hate it. But I don't see the point either, besides handing Miami a punched ticket to the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Zeus

he hasn't dropped off. his points certainly dipped with Shaq's arrival, but his rebounding average climbed. still, he's a very good defender, still a very good shooter, he's a winner, and he'd be an asset to the team. the point is that he'd be an upgrade both offensively and defensively. he'd give us that extra edge in getting into th e playoffs and then doing something once we're there. Dahntay couldn't give us the production that Eddie could. besides, there isn't much left on EJ's contract anyway...

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"You can put Shane on anybody and Shane won't back off," Brown said. "Every team should have five Shane Battiers'. They would be great." - Grizzlies coach Hubie Brown

Cinco de Mayo

So Eddie Jones hasn't dropped off at all? And he's a better defender than Posey? And he'll help us win a playoff game?

I disagree, but you're allowed your opinion. Right now, I really don't feel like arguing whether a 5ppg dropoff from last season and a perimeter shooter shooting under his career FG% with Shaq on his team is or isn't a dropoff. We need to be looking for upgrades. Replacing JWill with Damon Stoudamire and essentially swapping James Posey for Eddie Jones is putting a different face on the exact same problems. IMHO.

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Zeus

no, i don't think he's dropped off. he was forced to take a different role last year. i think he'd be right back to where he was in recent seasons if he were in Memphis. yes, he's better than Posey. and yes, he'd help us win a playoff game.

come on. you're going to pull out a miniscule difference in career FG%? that average is weighted down by a couple of seasons early in his career. take those out, and his average would be .433. that's not a world of difference from what he shot last year: .428. (also, his highest ppg average was 20. he shot a lesser fg% that year than he did last year.) and he was pretty much right at his career avg of 3pt%. he would definitely be an upgrade over Posey, Cardinal, Shane, and Dahntay.

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"You can put Shane on anybody and Shane won't back off," Brown said. "Every team should have five Shane Battiers'. They would be great." - Grizzlies coach Hubie Brown

Cinco de Mayo

You watched the playoffs, right? Eddie Jones wouldn't have made a lick of difference against Phoenix. And I doubt he would against the San Antonios and Dallases either.

If Memphis traded Williams and Posey for Eddie Jones, Pat Riley would tongue-kiss Jerry West. If we did the deal, the biggest positive I'd see is that we'd have a $14 million bargaining chip for a team who wants cap relief, along with a guy who'll be getting paid 30 million dollars to provide "positive veteran leadership" and hit a few three-pointers.

Don't post a link and tell me to look at the stats if you're just going to make excuse after excuse for them.

Make a poll on General, if you want to discuss Jones' past season any further. Maybe someone else will dance with you on the Jerry-West-can-do-no-wrong, navy-and-smoke-blue rainbow, but I'm really, really not in the mood.

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Zeus

you're right. clearly the answer is to get DARKO!!!

who's making an excuse? i just pointed out a couple of observations about his stats. sorry if you don't like the truth or don't like to look at things objectively.

LMFAO! aw, puddin!

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"You can put Shane on anybody and Shane won't back off," Brown said. "Every team should have five Shane Battiers'. They would be great." - Grizzlies coach Hubie Brown

Cinco de Mayo

To think I expected a better response than that. And it's not like I had high expectations to begin with.

And feel free to ask the site if Eddie Jones is just as good as he was eight years ago. Maybe you'll find some posters who like truth and objectivity as much as you do.

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Zeus

it was never my contention that Jones is as good as he was 8 years ago. he doesn't have to be as good as he was 8 years ago; he just has to be better than what we have now. i don't think that's unrealistic.

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FanOfAll8472

Eddie Jones would be nice, hard worker, nice shooter, great slasher, good defender, but definitely not the same player. He hasn't dropped off a lot though. Williams and Posey for Jones is just brutal for Memphis.

B-Easy

Now that details are coming out more and more, it seems the Grizz are getting royaly screwed. Everyone knows the EJ-Jwill & James rumors, but if that trade goes through the Heat may S&T(probably involving Posey or someone else and our TE) for Walker. Leaving the Heat with a Williams, Wade, Walker, Haslem, Shaq line-up(and as a Heat fan I dont mind that one bit.) But if you think about it, they only get EJ(who is one of my favorite players) while the Heat get Jdub and Posey and possibly Walker. This is why I love the off-season, its like a real life drama...you dont know what will happen.

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