K, it's in my sig. All he has to do is up his points from the cleveland season. Boozer is no longer the 3rd or 4th option for his team like he was in cleveland. He is the number 1 go to guy. So, he will be able to do it.
I do still think that Memphis would be better if they try to acquire someone like Paul Pierce (with raef coming also to play C) instead of Boozer or other PF...
My idea is actually sending Battier, EJ, Cardinal and #24 pick to Boston and a resigned Lorenzen Wright to Washington (my original idea was sending him to Spurs for Rasho and two 2nd rounders, but Rasho was traded to Raps), with Washington sending Etan Thomas to Boston and Boston sending Pierce, Raef, Scalabrine and Dickau to Memphis.
I do think that Boston can go after this move. Thomas is an underrated C and has shown in other seasons that he can be useful... And is two years younger than Raef. Cardinal is an improvement over Scalabrine, having Battier will be wonderful to work with Boston youngsters... And EJ is still a good veteran player with an expiring contract. And Ainge can do a pretty good job with the #24 pick.
I've writed about Memphis side in other topic. Get their C in Raef, a fine backup PG in Dickau to replace BJax, Scalabrine will get the same use that Cardinal was getting, so it won't be a big loss to Memphis, and Pierce will help Gasol a lot, and bring more fans to Grizzlies games...
Washington can use a veteran PF who can play C in Wright... He can help that frontcourt a lot...
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By Travis Heath
for HOOPSWORLD.com
Jun 23, 2006, 22:00
Rumors are swirling in Salt Lake City, and Carlos Boozer seems to be at the epicenter of every one. In fact, there are so many rumors revolving around the much maligned Boozer, that it's become hard to decipher between fact and fiction of late. Such is the NBA rumor mill this time of year.
Boozer has seemingly been trade bait from the day he arrived in Utah. Perhaps it's because of the major injuries he's had to his lower extremities. Some folks have insinuated that Boozer was actually prolonging his rehab to force a trade to the Los Angeles where he recently purchased a home. However, Boozer's head coach Jerry Sloan told Basketball News Services late last season that Boozer's injury was serious, and the coach's words didn't sound like just lip service.
"We didn't put Boozer out on the floor right away, because I had more at stake with him, or any player," Sloan adamantly stated. "I'm not going to play him just to get him hurt. He can come off the bench for ten or twelve games, because I think it's more important to his career than it is to mine."
The fact of the matter is, however, the Jazz played much better when Boozer returned and was able to play starter's minutes. He was the only consistent low post threat the Jazz had last season, and Sloan indicated that the Jazz were not the same team when Boozer was out.
Sloan continued, "We had a different team. We were playing different guys If we would of had these guys all year long . . . our offense is kind of geared to the two guys we have in the middle in Okur and Boozer. Boozer can play inside and pass the ball, and (Okur) can set up outside and make shots. And we haven't had that."
If you read between the lines, what Sloan is saying is that the Jazz could be a playoff caliber team with Boozer healthy.
That said, one critical question must be examined this offseason. Were the last two injury plagued campaigns for Boozer an aberration or simply a sign of things to come?.
If this Jazz team wants to be successful as currently constituted, it's all predicated on Boozer's ability to dominate in the pivot on both ends. If he stays healthy, the Jazz could explore the idea of trading Andrei Kirilenko as advanced in this space last week. If not, the chances that the team keeps Kirilenko go up exponentially.
The problem is that no one ever knows for sure when it comes to a player's health. Some guys have been able to recover from injuries that many assumed were career threatening initially, where as some other guys end up retiring way before their time because of reoccurring nagging injuries that were initially thought to be innocuous. Trying to figure this out as an NBA general manger is analogous to Kevin O'Connor risking his entire life savings in one game of craps in Las Vegas.
The message here is not that the Jazz shouldn't trade Boozer, but it's that the club should proceed with caution. Contrary to many media reports, Boozer could still flourish in Utah. His head coach sees the potential problems that Boozer and Okur can cause opposing coaching staffs, and his teammates saw firsthand the impact he made late last season when he wasn't even completely healthy yet.
If the team decides to trade Boozer, they should do so because they are getting a player -- or package of players -- in return that they think will ultimately make them a better team. Not just a better team when Boozer's out injured, but a team that they believe would be better even if Boozer was playing at one-hundred percent.
Recent trade rumors have linked the Jazz and the Memphis Grizzlies. While no specifics were released about who the Grizzlies would give up for Boozer, the Jazz should say no unless they get an offer of Pau Gasol in return.
The same goes for the trade rumors that have come out of Los Angeles for the better part of the last two seasons that involved Chris Mihm and garbage for Boozer. Unless the Lakers start by offering Lamar Odom, the Jazz should walk away.
It's not time for the Jazz to give up on Boozer -- not yet. The team gave him a bundle of bills to come to Salt Lake, and they should wait it out one more season, or more accurately put, one more half-season. If Boozer still isn't delivering come the trade deadline of 2007, the Jazz should explore moving him then. For now, they should hold onto Boozer, and trade him only from a position of strength.
The NBA sharks are currently circling in Utah, and they smell blood in the water. NBA people believe Boozer can be had for next to nothing. The Jazz need to be assertive and avoid being the red headed step child of the NBA trade market this summer. If not, expect forecasters across the nation to predict continued drought like conditions in Salt Lake City -- playoff drought, that is.
Travis Heath is a doctoral candidate in psychology, and covers the Denver Nuggets and everything else NBA as an editor and writer for Basketball News Services. He is also a contributor to ESPN Radio. He currently resides outside of Denver, Colorado, and he has spent time in Washington, Nebraska, and both Northern and Southern California.
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Exactly like I said, I knew I fould find someone else that isn't a jazz fan or grizzlies fan that would strongly disagree with a trade that didn't involve pau.
Exactly like I said, I knew I fould find someone else that isn't a jazz fan or grizzlies fan that would strongly disagree with a trade that didn't involve pau.
Maybe the Grizzlies are going after AK47.
Maybe it will be Miller and Battier for AK47+.
I think the problem in Utah is salary structure. They have a lot invested in their frontcourt and two players that have had inuries making MAXish money. They need a SG and already have $4million into GG. I think they want to break one of those contracts into two capable starters.
[Edit] Just noticed it is a Hoopsworld article....sheesh!
Maybe the Grizzlies are going after AK47.
Maybe it will be Miller and Battier for AK47+.
I think the problem in Utah is salary structure. They have a lot invested in their frontcourt and two players that have had inuries making MAXish money. They need a SG and already have $4million into GG. I think they want to break one of those contracts into two capable starters.
Now you've done it.
AK-47 is about to give this board more posts than we've had in weeks.
Exactly like I said, I knew I fould find someone else that isn't a jazz fan or grizzlies fan that would strongly disagree with a trade that didn't involve pau.
Which is exactly why in my first post I said the logical deal for us to offer is. Of course we're not offering Pau Gasol for Carlos Boozer. That's a no-brainer. So it's logical for us to offer anything other than Pau.
When Boozer was starting he was already doing 22/10 last season, and still wasn't even fully healthy. Check his games, and say I'm wrong.
It's going to be pretty good when he does it for a full year and you can no longer post because of your silly "guarantee".. either that or you'll be a coward for not backing up your own claim.
By the way, Boozer is a lot more talented than anybody or any combination on Memphis other than just flat out Pau Gasol. A lot of people overlook his value since he's involved in every trade rumor on the planet. Why do you think so many teams want him? Because he's a good player...
When Boozer was starting he was already doing 22/10 last season, and still wasn't even fully healthy. Check his games, and say I'm wrong.
It's going to be pretty good when he does it for a full year and you can no longer post because of your silly "guarantee".. either that or you'll be a coward for not backing up your own claim.
By the way, Boozer is a lot more talented than anybody or any combination on Memphis other than just flat out Pau Gasol. A lot of people overlook his value since he's involved in every trade rumor on the planet. Why do you think so many teams want him? Because he's a good player...
What logic.
Carlos Boozer is not and never has been a "22/10 player."
Feel free to put your username on the line if you're so confident.
I'm not about to make retarded guarantees to a website.
I come here to post and look for intelligent insight, not bash on players that are certainly capable of being better than you think, and "risking my username" just to prove a point.
No matter who says what, you'll believe what you believe, and I will do the same for myself. The bottom line is, Boozer has already done the 22/10 thing you're claiming he cannot do. I never said he'll do it for a season, and I also said it'll be funny if/when he does, because you will be in a tough spot.
Try not to be such a tough guy, and relax, dude.
By the way, since I know you haven't, check out Boozer's games from last season wherein he's had at least 25/30 minutes and check out the averages (in other words, games that he started). Something along the lines of 23.5 and 9.9... though it takes a bit to add and whatnot. Keep in mind that was also after almost a full year's layoff from NBA ball. The guy isn't a chump.
In the not so good news column for all the people trying to bash him, while also trying to aquire him (which makes no sense), the dude is only 23 and is still making tremendous progress on his game.
I'm not about to make retarded guarantees to a website.
I come here to post and look for intelligent insight, not bash on players that are certainly capable of being better than you think, and "risking my username" just to prove a point.
No matter who says what, you'll believe what you believe, and I will do the same for myself. The bottom line is, Boozer has already done the 22/10 thing you're claiming he cannot do. I never said he'll do it for a season, and I also said it'll be funny if/when he does, because you will be in a tough spot.
Try not to be such a tough guy, and relax, dude.
By the way, since I know you haven't, check out Boozer's games from last season wherein he's had at least 25/30 minutes and check out the averages (in other words, games that he started). Something along the lines of 23.5 and 9.9... though it takes a bit to add and whatnot.
A "22/10 player" is a guy who comes in and night-in, night-out season-after-season gives you 22.0 points and 10.0 rebounds per game. Twenty-five or 30 games is a stretch. It's a very good stretch, but it doesn't give a guy a 22/10 moniker. That's not even half a season, man.
And yes, I have checked Boozer's stats from last season - from that thread in the Jazz forum where BEEZ is telling you the exact same thing I'm saying now.
I never said Carlos Boozer was a chump. I said he's not a 22/10 player. Hardly any players are, so don't take it as personally as you obviously are.
The only reason I'm pointing out the games he started is because there were several when he just came back where he only got about 15 MPG, 6-8 PPG and a few rebounds. He certainly wasn't healthy.
I seriously don't get all of the crap around Boozer. He's done nothing at all... Nothing. He was injured for a year, came back, and played well. All the while, Peter Vescy was crapping out the worst rumors anybody had ever seen and the rest is just hogwash recycled over and over. Aside from Kobe, Wade, Shaq.. all the big names, Boozer is the most talked about player that hasn't done anything notable at all to warrant as much discussion about him.
It's either really bad trade rumors, or people trashing him for no reason. The guy is a solid player, there's no doubt about it. As soon as somebody stands up for him, everyone else waves over and brings up things that really don't mean anything... stuff like "he can never do this!".. ok? And.. who is to say that?
I know he hasn't really PROVEN anything. A lot of players in the league haven't. But Boozer is a heck of a talent and still very, very young. He's only 23. Who knows? He could just barely be scratching his potential. But for a guy that's already posted very decent stretches and is at that age and not showing signs of slowing, it seems foolish to say "he cannot do this or that", especially when it's perfectly reasonable amounts we're talking. If we were saying outlandish things like "BOOZER CAN GET 35/20 a night!" then you'd have a much better point in bashing him blindly.
By the way, what are the terms to your guarantee? A full season of 22/10? Just thought I'd clarify because you sound like you're talking long-term.
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