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Old 06-29-2006, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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NEW YORK - It is time to batten down whatever hatches you possess, or can borrow.

Back up your truck.

Allen Iverson will not be a 76er next season. At the least, he will not finish next season in the home white.

Write it in ink.

Now, I would never tell anyone else to bet the farm on anything, but if you have a spare farm - or a parcel of land that is otherwise undeveloped - put it on the table.

This will get done. Sooner or later, it will get done.

There has been too much smoke in the last two weeks for these tired old eyes not to search for the extinguishers. Too many near-deals for the obvious not to be, well, obvious.

Those who have hoped for, wished for, dreamed for this day, pay heed: Your moment is coming, and soon. AI is on his way out. You will have to find someone else to blame.

The Sixers, clearly, are doing much more than just blithely chatting with their league brethren; they are actively trying to divest themselves of their franchise player. They have made their choice (or their choice was made for them, as there is next to no interest in taking on the $43 million remaining on Chris Webber's contract). And it's just a matter of time before they find an Iverson deal that's to their liking.

It might be with Memphis, or Golden State, or Denver.

But Iverson won't be in Philadelphia much longer.
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If this is true and we win the Ivy eBay auction, then I'm speechless. Good to see this kind of proactive mindset from our front office. Iverson's nearing the end of his prime, but last season was his best from a statistical standpoint. He's hurt on a constant basis but rarely ever misses time.

I'd be willing to part with Eddie Jones, Swift, Cardinal, Warrick and a future draft pick. Any combination of those would be great - Philly can pick and choose. I don't know why they'd want Miller or Dahntay, but if it takes them, then fine. I'd hate to lose Damon, but if it takes Damon, then fine. If another team can beat that, then kudos to them.

I don't think West leaves Memphis without getting the franchise a superstar though.
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Holy ****, West is active. Something woke him up.
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Holy ****, West is active. Something woke him up.
Maybe the 12 straight playoff losses.

No, seriously.
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I'd be willing to part with Eddie Jones, Swift, Dahntay Jones, Cardinal, Warrick and a future draft pick. Any combination of those would be great - Philly can pick and choose.
Is that it??? I mean, what package that doesn't include Gasol at this point would you not approve of for Iverson? Are you saying Mike Miller and Damon Stoudamire are untouchable when you're talking about getting Allen Iverson?
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Is that it??? I mean, what package that doesn't include Gasol at this point would you not approve of for Iverson? Are you saying Mike Miller and Damon Stoudamire are untouchable when you're talking about getting Allen Iverson?
The post's edited. Obviously, anyone on the team is tradeable for Iverson (except Gasol and Gay). But there's not much reason why Philly would want some of our guys.

I don't imagine why they'd want Miller or Dahntay Jones, since they drafted two wings and already have Iguodala/Korver, so that's why I didn't add them.

And I hope Philly fans aren't expecting to get superstars for Iverson. An expiring contract, some prospects and a draft pick is what I think you can expect.
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Obviously, anyone on the team is tradeable for Iverson (except Gasol and Gay). But there's not much reason why Philly would want some of our guys.
That makes much more sense. Thanks.
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Maybe you guys can work out a 3 way?
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Re: Memphis mentioned in Iverson trade talks

I definately see a 3-5 team deal going down this year. If I was Memphis like you guys said only Gasol, and Gay should be tied down if AI is involved.
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Re: Memphis mentioned in Iverson trade talks

That'd be crazy if my favorite player came to the home team.

I wouldn't care who we sent for AI as long as it wasn't Gasol and Gay.
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IMO AI isn't right for Memphis. He is in the last years of his career and his body may start showing the affects of the wear and tear at anytime. He has a lot of money coming to him over the next 3 - 5 years. Money that will limit the team from having any flexibility. He doesn't play well with others as is evident by the fact that the second best player on team always sees his numbers decline.

If the team is going to stick its neck out on a long, expensive contract, I would rather have KMart to partner with Pau in the paint.

AI is an incredible competitor but he is making over $20M a year until he is 35 years old. I don't see how you could get out of the last years of that contract. If he were a post dominating player, it would be okay.

The CBA era that allowed this type of contract has passed. In other words, talent is cheaper now with the new CBA.

Memphis is small market city. We shouldn't be trying to achieve success using the big market approach. We have to follow the likes of San Antonio. AI, Vince, these type of veterans are too expensive for our market. We have to get that type of player while they are young and develop them. Unfortunately, we haven't had much success in developing our draft picks over the past few seasons. Maybe that is about to change.
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IMO AI isn't right for Memphis. He is in the last years of his career and his body may start showing the affects of the wear and tear at anytime.
He’s definitely not in the last years of his career. In fact, last season was his best season ever statistically. His AsR was solid, his ToR was lower than ever, while his TS% and PER were the highest of his career. You might be right about most players showing the wear and tear by now, but Iverson seems to be avoiding that decline quite well.

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He has a lot of money coming to him over the next 3 - 5 years. Money that will limit the team from having any flexibility.
I won’t argue with the fact that he’s owed about $20 mil per season over the next 3 years (he’s not under contract after that), but I do not think cap flexibility takes precedence over trying to win a championship.

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He doesn't play well with others as is evident by the fact that the second best player on team always sees his numbers decline.
If you’re using Webber as your example, his numbers have declined because his physical condition has declined as he’s aged. If you’re talking about Stackhouse, his numbers stayed basically the same in the year he played with Iverson. If you’re talking about Derrick Coleman, he was 34 by the time he played with Iverson. Additionally, his PER and TS% actually increased dramatically his first year with AI compared to his last year in Charlotte. If you mean Keith Van Horn, his numbers in his one year in Philly were way better than his numbers in his two previous seasons in New Jersey. If you’re talking about Glen Robinson, he was literally a year away from retirement by the time he played with AI in Philly. His numbers had been on the decline for 4 straight seasons. I just don’t see any evidence at all of your claim, here.

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If the team is going to stick its neck out on a long, expensive contract, I would rather have KMart to partner with Pau in the paint.
If K-Mart ever fully realizes his potential and plays at his absolute apex as a player, he still won’t be in the same stratosphere as Iverson is in right now.

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AI is an incredible competitor but he is making over $20M a year until he is 35 years old.
AI is only under contract until the age of 33.

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If he were a post dominating player, it would be okay.
In today’s NBA that is catered to dribble-drivers, I would argue that a dominating perimeter player like Iverson is actually more valuable than a post dominating player. More importantly, Pau already is a great post player. Why would you want to clog up the lane with another post guy when you could get a guy to relentlessly break down the defense off the dribble and get Pau (and others) easy buckets, instead?

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The CBA era that allowed this type of contract has passed. In other words, talent is cheaper now with the new CBA.
While I agree that talent in general is cheaper now, I don’t think this Memphis team can possibly pass up a chance to get Iverson under any circumstances. It simply would not be fair to their fans.
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