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01-15-2007, 02:54 AM
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6th Man
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
The Grizzlies don't need Vince Carter. He was a Superstar. Now he is a fading star. He has never been able to defend; always been soft and overrated. The Nets can keep him.
Deng or Gordon and Thomas or Sefolosha and a 1st round pick and a throw in cap equalizer would be a worthwile deal for Gasol and Cardinal or Swift.
Otherwise, why not just hang onto Gasol? He will be great if we ever find someone who can play enforcer in the paint. AJ or Roberts may be that man. If we land Oden, he will definitely have the potential to be that man. Noah could also end up being this type player in the NBA (because of his competitiveness). Gay and Miller can take care of business on the perimeter. Lowry wil be an excellent point guard for this group.
Gasol is coming off a busy and successful summer and recovering from an injury. Maybe, we shouldn't expect him to be 100% this season. He will probably never be the guy to lead this franchise deep into the playoffs but he definitely has the potential to play a major role. His problem will always be his soft defense. It's hard to win big games/ series in the NBA when your best player is soft on defense, ie Carter.
So please stop trying to push Carter to Memphis. He don't want us and we don't want him.
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01-16-2007, 06:17 AM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
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Vince Carter, 2007 draft pick for Gasol. Get it done.
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that's a terrible trade. Carter doesn't have too many years left in him.
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01-16-2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
How about something like this. I believe it gives you guys most everything you would want
Randolph
Magloire (expiring)
Outlaw/Webster Both young and showing signs of being pretty darn good, Outlaw is expiring
2007 first round pick...top 2 protected.....or an unprotected 2008 pick.
our top 2 second round picks this season
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Gasol
Miller
I think that gives you guys a player that will give you 25/10, cap relief, a high draft pick, young players that have a lot of potential, and 2 high second round picks in a deep draft.
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01-16-2007, 07:09 AM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
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How about something like this. I believe it gives you guys most everything you would want
Randolph
Magloire (expiring)
Outlaw/Webster Both young and showing signs of being pretty darn good, Outlaw is expiring
2007 first round pick...top 2 protected.....or an unprotected 2008 pick.
our top 2 second round picks this season
for
Gasol
Miller
I think that gives you guys a player that will give you 25/10, cap relief, a high draft pick, young players that have a lot of potential, and 2 high second round picks in a deep draft.
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No.
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01-16-2007, 03:13 PM
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happy fat guy
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Why?
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01-16-2007, 07:59 PM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
because it sucks.
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01-16-2007, 08:11 PM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
trade pau for kg. i wanna see memphisx's head explode.
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01-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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Because I don't want Memphis to be the Trailblazers.
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01-17-2007, 07:03 AM
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happy fat guy
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Because I don't want Memphis to be the Trailblazers.
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God forbid your team goes to the playoffs 22 straight years.
I don't mean this in a snotty way, but what do you guys think you could honestly get for Gasol? I mean an all star calliber player in Randolph, a lottery pick, and a young lottery pick from a season ago seems to be a pretty decent offer. Not to mention the 8 million in cap space you would be getting from Magloire's contract. Don't get me wrong, I realize it's not earth shattering. I'm just not sure it's as bad as you think it is.
The Trailblazers of now are the Trailblazers of now because of several different reasons that don't have a lot to do with the players we would be trading in my scenerio.
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01-17-2007, 10:28 AM
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The Trailblazers of now are the Trailblazers of now because of several different reasons that don't have a lot to do with the players we would be trading in my scenerio.
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of course not. you just want to dump your dead weight for another team's two best players.  if i wanted to be a**r**** that badly, i'd visit the local prison.
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01-17-2007, 11:24 AM
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of course not. you just want to dump your dead weight for another team's two best players.  if i wanted to be a**r**** that badly, i'd visit the local prison.
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Someone averaging 25/10 is hardly dead weight. The only reason I included Miller in the first place to to come up with a way to get you guys cap space. You also get an additional lottery pick. I'm not sure that equates to rape, but if that's what you think ok.
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01-29-2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
Carter is not a fading star hes in his prime. Get VC for a year and raise attendence. Then let him leave you guys have young talent. Rebuild you get 17 mill cap space. Then continue on draft high and get a winning franchise. Gasol (someone to match salaries) for Vince and 1st rounder.
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01-29-2007, 12:59 PM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
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Someone averaging 25/10 is hardly dead weight. The only reason I included Miller in the first place to to come up with a way to get you guys cap space. You also get an additional lottery pick. I'm not sure that equates to rape, but if that's what you think ok.
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If you want to offer more cap relief to Memphis, don't include Miller in trade ideas unless there is someone close to him. Try Cardinal and/or Stromile Swift.
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01-29-2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
Vince Carter makes zero sense. VC tanked in Toronto when he wanted a trade. He can opt out this year. Why wouldn't fans come out for a fast paced offense with more young potential stars than any team in the NBA ?? They came out in Chicago and they didn't have the potential stars Memphis could have. If you are going to trade Gasol then it can only be for a big time jump on rebuilding the team. Nothing else would make sense. You can get extra cap relief, a young potential star and a lottery pick from the Bulls. No oneelse can offer that. That should be what you want if you have to trade Gasol. It would be much better than the 76ers got for The Answer.
Gasol + Cardenal for PJ Brown, Sweetney, Thomas and NY #1 pick. It is a no brainer if West can gert that much. There will not be another opportunity for serious cap relief until 2009 if Gasol is not traded in Feb.
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01-29-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: Gasol Welcomes Trade
A big jump would be getting 17 mill cap relif. P.J. Brown will only give 7 mill. No one on the Bulls has proven anything except Gordon who I dought they will give up. Vince was mistreated in Toronto. Also you could do Kristic RJ for Gasol Gay that seems fair.
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