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Originally Posted by da bully
i think you memphis fans are extremely unreasonable you guys are treating gasol like hes kobe or lebron. and thats fine that you want to keep him but the problem is, HE DOESNT WANT TO BE THERE.history shows that your not gonna get equal value for gasol. what make you guys thinks think that you should get good young talent, HIGH draft picks, and cap relief???? you guys are fooling yourselves.
im a bulls fan and am pulling for gasolto come to the bulls however,i think that offer from the trailbalzer fan was fair if not overdoing it.
not to mention that there isnt a guarantee that you guys are gonna get oden much less the 1st pick in the draft.
and rawse, your unbelieveable.
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I agree to an extent. Everyone knows you get pennies on the dollar when a guy wants traded. West might claim it's not a firesale, but we all know that in reality that's exactly what it is. Not only that, but Gasol isn't much of a defender. If he was the player they seem to think he is, we wouldn't have blown them out 111-66, not even needing to score the entire 2nd half and still win by 5. Or, for that matter, they'd have won a playoff game by now. We beat the champs 2 games in the playoffs last year, so the excuse of who they played is ridiculous. You should be able to steal at least 1 game in a 7 game series.
I personally hope we don't get him....for both teams' sake. We're better off waiting to draft a guy like Spencer Hawes, and they're better off keeping him and hoping for Oden/Durant/Hawes/Thabeet...most notably the Centers who are shot blockers. We need the size and post scoring, so he would fill that role, but not at the expense of the team we already have. Tyrus is already a better shot blocker than he'll ever be, and will be a beast, and Gordon is better than he is by far too. Deng puts up comparable #s. Gasol's salary is too big, and will most likely not permit us to resign all of Deng/Noc/Gordon. The only trade I'd pull for him would be Nocioni, Duhon, PJ, & the pick. I don't (personally) like either of those players aside from Nocioni and we wouldn't need him with Gasol. Gasol is a more sure thing than the pick...but the pick could very well turn out to be a superstar...only 25% chance the worst team gets the #1 anyway. That's where his value is to me. He's also missed around 60 games in his short career too.
Why the Grizz should keep him:
Lowry
Miller
Gay
Gasol/Durant
Oden/Hawes/Gasol
Any of those 3 rookies (Durant, Oden, Hawes) and they're set IMO. Pretty good across the board, and young. If they did trade Gasol and got Deng for example, where would Gay play? Just dumb to load up on guys at the same position, that are 20 and 21 years old.
Why the Bulls shouldn't get him:
Hinrich
Gordon
Deng
Thomas
Hawes/Thabeet/Splitter/Oden/Gray (any good 7 footer will do)
We're already set with good young players at the 1-4, and need a 5. Gasol is a 4 anyway, and why trade away our team when we have a pick that will get us a good young big guy? That's just dumb. We'll be much more competitive and better in the long run if we just make a smaller trade with guys like Duchump and Sweet-tooth for a decent post player and keep the rest of our team intact.