ExtremeBrigs

I'm curious to see what you guys think about this:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_20381.shtml

If Gasol was GOING to be traded, would you rather a superstar like Vince Carter or cap space, a pick, and someone like Andres Nocioni? It's easy for hometown fans to offer garbage trades for guys they like, but what about the fans with the guys we like?

Your thoughts?

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Cinco de Mayo

Young talent + 2007 lotto pick + cap relief

Nothing less.

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CocaineisaHelluvaDrug

the sixers could`nt get that for allen iverson so you got no chance with gasol

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Cinco de Mayo

Well, super!

Then I guess I'd just rather not trade him and have him on the Grizzlies then, huh?

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Seed

you could get that for gasol. Is he old like AI-No, does he carry any extra package - No, Is he a bigman - Yes. Alot of teams would give alot for someone like gasol on their team.

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Zuca

Nocioni+2007 Knicks pick+PJ Brown expiring contract.

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carlos710

May be T. Thomas + Nocioni + pick + PJ brown contract. Is not a lot to ask from memphis side IMO. Nocioni is only a good role player. Thomas hasn't proven he a lot, but he may have a better chance to do it with the grizzlies. The 2007 pick is good, but it will be (likely) in the 5-10 range, so is not worth Gasol by itself.

Cinco de Mayo

Nocioni will be overpaid after this year. He's expiring.

I'm not all too high on Tyrus Thomas either. We have enough guys who are all heart, no basketball smarts or all basketball smarts, no heart. Thabo Sefolosha and Thomas are intriguing talents, but not for an Western All-Star seven-footer like Pau Gasol. I'd like someone a little more established and well-rounded mentally. The only two guys I have much interest in at all from Chicago right now are Ben Gordon and Luol Deng.

Not to mention that I like the Knicks at this point to win the Atlantic and therefore have a non-lotto draft pick.

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Jizzy

Vince Carter, 2007 draft pick for Gasol. Get it done.

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carlos710

This would be a great deal for the grizzlies..

Chicago Trade Breakdown

Outgoing
P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
4.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.6 minutes
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
4.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 9.3 minutes
Luol Deng
6-9 SF from Duke
18.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.1 minutes
Malik Allen
6-10 PF from Villanova
4.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.5 minutes

Incoming
Pau Gasol
7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
19.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 28.9 minutes
Brian Cardinal
6-8 PF from Purdue
5.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 11.9 minutes
Tarence Kinsey
6-6 SG from South Carolina
3.0 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: -3.8 ppg, -6.4 rpg, and -0.2 apg.


Memphis Trade Breakdown

Outgoing
Pau Gasol
7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
19.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 28.9 minutes
Brian Cardinal
6-8 PF from Purdue
5.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 11.9 minutes
Tarence Kinsey
6-6 SG from South Carolina
3.0 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.2 minutes

Incoming
P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
4.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.6 minutes
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
4.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 9.3 minutes
Luol Deng
6-9 SF from Duke
18.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.1 minutes
Malik Allen
6-10 PF from Villanova
4.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.5 minutes
Change in team outlook: +3.8 ppg, +6.4 rpg, and +0.2 apg.


Gasol + Cardinal + Kinsey
for
knicks pick + Deng + Brown + Sweetney + Allen

I think both sweetney and allen are expiring, and the grizzlies would be sending their worst contract. Pretty good deal for them, but im not sure if the bulls would be willing to take on cardinal and give deng.

You also could take Deng and sweetney from that deal, and put nocioni+t.thomas. Good news are that the bull have a lot a bunch of young players/expiring contracts, and the knicks pick. Definitively, there could be something done and i think it would be a good idea for the grizzlies to do something like this.

Hopefully the owners would be willing to expend money with all the cap space created.

Jizzy

That is a terrible trade. The franchise would be a disgrace. At least they should get a superstar back in Vince.

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carlos710

Vince more than likely would left at the end of the seasons and leave the grrizlies with noting but a pick in the 20's, or would force the grizzlies to rush a sign and trade deal where they likely would end with nothing but garbage.

And, if vince+kidd+jefferson cant win in the EAST, why we should believe that he can win with miller and gay in the west?

The grizzlies need young talent if they trade gasol, not potential problems.

Seuss

I'd keep Gasol.



Oden + Gasol + Rudy Gay + Kyle Lowry = Very nice future.

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Seed

yea If I was grizz, don't trade right now, Draft Oden, Sign a good PG like Steve Blake as your backup PG, and then I think you'd be back up in the West

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