View Poll Results: What is wanted in return for Gasol?

WildByNature · 01-17-2007, 11:54 AM

Currently, with the #1 Overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft. The Grizzlies have a few options if they are looking to rebuild using this and other future pick s to return to the playoffs. Whats your call if you traded Pau Gasol?

**Cinco de Mayo** · 01-17-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WildByNature

Currently, with the #1 Overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft. The Grizzlies have a few options if they are looking to rebuild using this and other future pick s to return to the playoffs. Whats your call if you traded Pau Gasol?

Wouldn't trade him at least until the season's over, if at all.

If you trade Pau, you're trading him for worse players (or getting worse players in free agency), so I don't see where the strategy really comes into play.

If we traded him on draft night for Oden, then yeah. Otherwise, just get some good players around him for the first time in six years.

**MemphisX** · 01-17-2007, 03:55 PM

I have to disagree Rawse.

Are you not seeing him on the court?

Unmotivated, soft, and lazy. Doing nothing but propping up his offensive numbers.

Maybe you think he is excused from playing hard because he doesn't think his team is good enough for him to perform but to me he is the main reason that the team does not compete like it was before his prissy *** came back. He is a border line All Star who had his head blown up due to the World Championships (that his team won without him). He does not want to play in Memphis and is not good enough IMO to coddle. He has yet to score a tough basket in his career. The ultimate 3 quarter horse. When the defensive pressure picks up, Pau disappears.

Good riddance......

piri · 01-19-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MemphisX

I have to disagree Rawse.

Are you not seeing him on the court?

Unmotivated, soft, and lazy. Doing nothing but propping up his offensive numbers.

Maybe you think he is excused from playing hard because he doesn't think his team is good enough for him to perform but to me he is the main reason that the team does not compete like it was before his prissy *** came back. He is a border line All Star who had his head blown up due to the World Championships (that his team won without him). He does not want to play in Memphis and is not good enough IMO to coddle. He has yet to score a tough basket in his career. The ultimate 3 quarter horse. When the defensive pressure picks up, Pau disappears.

Good riddance......

I see him on the court, and it's true, he is soft and lazy, but this guy has not made a preseason, and he is not at the same physical level that his team-mates. And when in previous season the team was competitive he plays very hard. IMO if memphis put around him players who could made the team compete he will be pleased to stay in memphis. He only want to win, he is a true winner who can stand in a team with the worst record on NBA.

About the world championships, greece wasn't, by far the best team that Sapin defeated. We win over Germany with nowitzky, over Lythuania, over Argentina, over Serbia. All this teams could beat easily greece. The matter tha the USA group (that was not a team) were not capable to beat a team in which the better player is a guy who nobody wants in NBA, doesn't means that greece is a good team.

Build a good team around him and he will be an all star player for years. If you don't want to spend money creating a good team, then trade him for draft picks and cheap contracts, in order to save money.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 01-20-2007, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MemphisX

I have to disagree Rawse.

Are you not seeing him on the court?

Unmotivated, soft, and lazy. Doing nothing but propping up his offensive numbers.

Maybe you think he is excused from playing hard because he doesn't think his team is good enough for him to perform but to me he is the main reason that the team does not compete like it was before his prissy *** came back. He is a border line All Star who had his head blown up due to the World Championships (that his team won without him). He does not want to play in Memphis and is not good enough IMO to coddle. He has yet to score a tough basket in his career. The ultimate 3 quarter horse. When the defensive pressure picks up, Pau disappears.

Good riddance......

I think we're in the same or at least similar boats regarding his attitude and the "When the going gets tough..." thing. I'm just not yet at the point where I want to cut bait on him. Long story short, we don't get top dollar on him if we trade him now. I'd rather have Pau Gasol play hard for three quarters a night than one or two worse players playing hard (maybe) for four quarters. Being honest with myself, I don't see us making major moves in free agency, so cap space is virtually worthless. Even if Jerry West had room to do something major, he'd either get cold feet or he'd F it up as per usual. Or he'd sign Brian Cardinal's little brother to a five-year, $30M deal.

Pau's a darn good basketball player, and there's just not many guys in the league with his skill set. I'd rather wait and see what draft pick we wind up with first. A guy like Greg Oden is the perfect complement for a guy like Pau Gasol. Kevin Durant is going to be a borderline All-Star in his first season - no matter the conference. A Pau Gasol team with Greg Oden results in a much, much better Pau Gasol. A Pau Gasol team with Kevin Durant and Rudy Gay, let alone Lowry and Miller, presents a huge matchup problem for the opponent. I like the idea of having the other team having to figure us out for a change instead of the other way around.

My stance is that by trading Pau, we get back a lesser talent, who doesn't create nearly as interesting potential starting lineups next season. Pau does need to cinch up his sack until that happens though, no doubt.

crazyfan · 01-20-2007, 03:20 AM

Cap space?

Grizz have a good chance at Oden/Durant and with young guys like Gay and Lowry in the team, trading Pau for some picks/cap space or a couple of promising young players might be a good thing.

melo4life · 01-20-2007, 04:54 AM

he could go to denver, then it would be an awesome lineup

PG-Iverson
SG-Jr Smith
SF-Carmelo
PF-Gasol
C-Camby

**Ruff Draft** · 01-20-2007, 08:33 AM

To Golden State for JRich & filler isn't that bad is it?

**MemphisX** · 01-20-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XMATTHEWX

To Golden State for JRich & filler isn't that bad is it?

If that filler is Ellis and your 2007 1st rounder , then no it isn't bad at all.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 01-20-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by melo4life

he could go to denver, then it would be an awesome lineup

PG-Iverson
SG-Jr Smith
SF-Carmelo
PF-Gasol
C-Camby

Yeah, I guess if we traded Gasol for Kenyon Martin...

rwj333 · 01-21-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawse

I think we're in the same or at least similar boats regarding his attitude and the "When the going gets tough..." thing. I'm just not yet at the point where I want to cut bait on him. Long story short, we don't get top dollar on him if we trade him now. I'd rather have Pau Gasol play hard for three quarters a night than one or two worse players playing hard (maybe) for four quarters. Being honest with myself, I don't see us making major moves in free agency, so cap space is virtually worthless. Even if Jerry West had room to do something major, he'd either get cold feet or he'd F it up as per usual. Or he'd sign Brian Cardinal's little brother to a five-year, $30M deal.

Pau's a darn good basketball player, and there's just not many guys in the league with his skill set. I'd rather wait and see what draft pick we wind up with first. A guy like Greg Oden is the perfect complement for a guy like Pau Gasol. Kevin Durant is going to be a borderline All-Star in his first season - no matter the conference. A Pau Gasol team with Greg Oden results in a much, much better Pau Gasol. A Pau Gasol team with Kevin Durant and Rudy Gay, let alone Lowry and Miller, presents a huge matchup problem for the opponent. I like the idea of having the other team having to figure us out for a change instead of the other way around.

My stance is that by trading Pau, we get back a lesser talent, who doesn't create nearly as interesting potential starting lineups next season. Pau does need to cinch up his sack until that happens though, no doubt.

Great post- I agree with your reasoning.

I think Memphis' situation is similar to Orlando's dilemma a few years back. Orlando had to trade Tracy McGrady because he could opt out, but they would be the best team in the East by far if they had kept McGrady and gotten Howard. In hindsight, it was the wrong move (and a horrible trade, I don't think they've kept a single player from that trade.)

Memphis doesn't need to trade Gasol because he can't opt out. Gasol can go Vince Carter on you, but if you guys get Oden or Durant in the draft, you would be instantly improved, and all would be forgiven.

The one caveat is that Gasol is older than what McGrady was and not as good.

taurus515th · 01-21-2007, 09:44 PM

How about Bulls 2007 pick, 2nd round picks, 2008 Pick, P.J. Brown, Chris Duhon, and Michael Sweetney.

To bad we have to include Deng or someone which i dont want to lose.

PG-Kirk Hinrich 6'3
SG-Ben Gordon 6'2
SF-Luol Deng 6'9
PF-Pau Gasol 7'1
C-Ben Wallace 6'7

Having Pau Gasol will make all our guys shooting percentages go up.

Whose team do yall like better?

Kirk Hinrich vs Devin Harris
Ben Gordon vs Jason Terry
Luol Deng vs Josh Howard
Pau Gasol vs Dirk Nowitzki
Ben Wallace vs Erick Dampier

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