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09-30-2003, 06:59 PM
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Grizzlies Finally Getting Their Big Man?
On NBA.com's front page today, there was a report that the Grizzlies have traded Brevin Knight to the Phoenix Suns for Bo Outlaw and the 7'2" 290lb Jake Tsakalidis. Since the salaries do not match up, there will obviously be some other filler (Ryan Humphrey? Please...?)
I love this trade for the Grizzlies. We get the huge, fairly agile big guy we've been looking for (although he has battled back injuries lately), not to mention a strong defender and hustler in Bo Outlaw, who can make some nice passes in the paint. The only catch is that we take on an extra year on Bo's contract, which runs until the end of the 04/05 season.
Basically, we get our center (who is hopefully healthy) and only take on one extra year of a contract that is just slightly more than Knight's.
This makes our lineup:
Jason Williams
James Posey
Mike Miller
Pau Gasol
Jake Tsakalidis
Bench:
Earl Watson/Troy Bell
Wesley Person/Mike Dickerson (IR)
Shane Battier/Dahntay Jones (IR)
Stromile Swift/Ryan Humphrey (IR)
Lorenzen Wright/Bo Outlaw
Waived: NO ONE (yet...)! 
Odd man out: Theron Smith
Traded as filler: Trybanski, Archibald
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09-30-2003, 07:17 PM
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Trade's official: Brevin Knight, Cezary Trybanski, and Robert Archibald for Bo Outlaw and Jake Tsakalidis.
Changes have been made to the lineup in the first post.
I guess this means the Trybanski experiment is a wash. And as an Illini fan, I'm hoping Archibald has a chance to be on someone's NBA roster. 
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09-30-2003, 07:34 PM
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Great move for the Grizzlies. We basically traded guys who would see no playing time, and we get a center that we desperately needed in return. Hopefully Tsakalidis can stay healthy. Take that doubters of Jerry West 
And rawse, you know if Archibald doesn't make it in the NBA, he will have a stellar career overseas. 
I wish Ryan Humphrey could have been included as well. Maybe the Grizzlies will just eat his contract. Theron Smith can't be waived 
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09-30-2003, 07:36 PM
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I'm still on the anti-West bandwagon, but this is a very solid deal for you guys. Trading scrubs for a legit starting center seems like a solid plan to me.
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09-30-2003, 07:37 PM
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Re: Grizzlies Finally Getting Their Big Man?
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Dahntay Jones (IR)
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probably my least favorite draft pick evvvver
why are you gonna waste the 16th pick in a rather deep draft just to stash a player on IR..... 
might as well took lampe and had him sit overseas for the year while the contract situation was worked out.
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09-30-2003, 07:45 PM
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Re: Re: Grizzlies Finally Getting Their Big Man?
The Dahntay Jones pick (which was actually #20, but just the same...) is probably my worst pick ever, as well, at least for last year. It kills me that my team is the one that made it. I wanted to kill West for that pick, combined with the Celtics trade and Troy Bell at #16. I wanted to kill the man.
I was wanting Cabarkapa (THE GUY EVERYONE'S RAVING OVER!) at #13, and Perkins at #27. We did pick Perkins, but then traded him away of course. Because that's just my luck. Well, actually, once Lampe fell down to the 20's, EVERYONE wanted their team to pick him, so I guess I wanted Lampe at #27 during the draft.
Jones is IR material, especially as stacked as we are at the 2/3.
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09-30-2003, 07:47 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Grizzlies Finally Getting Their Big Man?
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The Dahntay Jones pick (which was actually #20, but just the same...) is probably my worst pick ever, as well, at least for last year. It kills me that my team is the one that made it. I wanted to kill West for that pick, combined with the Celtics trade and Troy Bell at #16. I wanted to kill the man.
I was wanting Cabarkapa (THE GUY EVERYONE'S RAVING OVER!) at #13, and Perkins at #27. We did pick Perkins, but then traded him away of course. Because that's just my luck. Well, actually, once Lampe fell down to the 20's, EVERYONE wanted their team to pick him, so I guess I wanted Lampe at #27 during the draft.
Jones is IR material, especially as stacked as we are at the 2/3.
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Ah the pain of that draft for you. That would have been a hell of a draft Zarko and Lampe.
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09-30-2003, 08:39 PM
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This is a great trade for the grizzlies.
Does anybody know the length of contracts for both Outlaw and Tsakalidis?
Also, what is the status of Theron Smith's contract? Is it guaranteed or can he be waived?
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09-30-2003, 08:59 PM
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This is a great trade for the grizzlies.
Does anybody know the length of contracts for both Outlaw and Tsakalidis?
Also, what is the status of Theron Smith's contract? Is it guaranteed or can he be waived?
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Bo Outlaw's contract last for 2 more years and is around $5.5 per year averaged out. Tsakalidis has a qualifying offer of $2.3 million next year, one he is likely to pick up.
I believe Smith has an unguaranteed contract so he can possibly be cut after training camps, same goes for Shelton Jones, Archibald, O'Kelley and Richard Jeter.
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09-30-2003, 09:04 PM
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What were the Suns thinking? Im a huge Big Jake fan. Nice pickup by the Griz.
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09-30-2003, 09:05 PM
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This is a great trade for the grizzlies.
Does anybody know the length of contracts for both Outlaw and Tsakalidis?
Also, what is the status of Theron Smith's contract? Is it guaranteed or can he be waived?
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Big Jake's contract is worth about $1.6 mil this season, and after that he's a RFA.
Bo Outlaw's goes one year after this season (so just the 04/05 season). His salary is a shade under $6 mil this season and $5.3 mil next season. Bo's got a pretty curious deal, as I rarely see contracts DEvalue as they get longer. Bo's getting almost 700K LESS next year.
Theron Smith, I believe, HAS been signed to the minimum ($366, 931). I could be wrong, though.
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09-30-2003, 09:10 PM
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excellent. finally the grizzlies appear complete for playoff contention. Jake isn't the best center but he'll do for 20 minutes. the grizz' four man frontcourt rotation looks form | |
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