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10-06-2003, 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by <b>Mikedc</b>!
OMG, it's a Potatoe sighting!
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LOL,
Well after being stipped of my mod duties without so much as an E-Mail explanation, I figured I was done with this place, but with the Grizz making some strides this year, and me being a forgiving chap,,,,,,,
back I be (smile)
BTW,,,,
How the heck are ya Mike,,,
All must be well over in "Bull Land" that team looks ready to make some noise....
Take Care.
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10-06-2003, 05:20 PM
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I'm sorry, but I think that was a horrible horrible trade too. We have some pretty good PF's already. Gasol, Swift and Wright. Why trade for another?
As for Sheed being a star, well, he's old. He's past his prime.. And he can barely lead a team as stacked as the blazers into the playoffs, do you really expect him to help the Grizzlies do much better? I'd much rather keep our core of talented youth. Sheed was the man maybe a couple years ago, but not anyore. I say keep our youngsters and we'd be contending for the title pretty soon. Let's make the playoffs this year!
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10-06-2003, 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by <b>c_dog</b>!
I'm sorry, but I think that was a horrible horrible trade too. We have some pretty good PF's already. Gasol, Swift and Wright. Why trade for another?
As for Sheed being a star, well, he's old. He's past his prime.. And he can barely lead a team as stacked as the blazers into the playoffs, do you really expect him to help the Grizzlies do much better? I'd much rather keep our core of talented youth. Sheed was the man maybe a couple years ago, but not anyore. I say keep our youngsters and we'd be contending for the title pretty soon. Let's make the playoffs this year!
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Outside of Gasol and Swift, we have no good PFs. Wright's marginal, nothing special.
Sheed is a star, and he's only 29. By comparison, Jason Williams is one month away from 28. That may be starting on the downward slope, but by no stretch of the imagination is Wallace "old." He's one of the top defensive PFs in the league, he's an excellent scorer, he still runs the floor exceptionally. If Hubie got him to take advantage of his strength and go post up, he'd be incredible. Now...I know you're thinking..."yeah, that'll never happen..." BUT, even if that doesn't happen, we're only getting him for bench scrubs, not to mention we unload Wright's contract, and Battier might be the best player we give up in that deal...
I still like it...
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10-06-2003, 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by <b>c_dog</b>!
Sheed was the man maybe a couple years ago, but not anyore. I say keep our youngsters and we'd be contending for the title pretty soon. Let's make the playoffs this year!
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Seems to me you are in denial. Keep your youngsters and Memphis isn't going anywhere this year. Look at how tough the West is... you need big players to compete.
Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, Kings and Wolves are pretty much guaranteed playoff spots. Rockets and Suns look more than likely to slide into the 6 and 7. For that final playoff spot, Memphis competes with Portland, Seattle and even if they do get the 8th spot, I can't see this Memphis core going far into the playoffs.
Remember, West's goal is winning the championship... not getting swept in the first round.
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10-06-2003, 10:37 PM
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I'll respond to both posts here..
Gasol and Swift is all you need at PF. We have hardly enough PT for Swift, and by adding Sheed you'd just be taking more of it away.
I'm not in denial. I really like the core of this group now. If anybody likes to criticize the Grizzlie's core, it's me. I disagreed when they signed Posey to MLE, even at the Miller trade because I thought they gave up one player too many(Griricek), laughed when ppl suggested getting Stephania, blame losses on Pau for being soft and not playing up to his potential, JWill for poor decision making. Having said that, I think they have all their pieces together now, and you'd be backtracking by doing the Sheed trade. Sheed is hardly a star, IMO. He can put up the numbers, but so can Pau. He's also a headache. You don't want these children to be around someone like him. He's a cancer!
I say, keep these youngster, see where they can take us. It's only a matter of time one of them emerges as a star. I can see it happen to Pau and Miller. Both can be a Sheed like player(impact wise). Pau is still young, what's to say he won't surpass Sheed? By trading for Sheed, you're giving up depth, and right now, I LOVE the depth.
How do the Grizzlies make the playoffs, you ask? They are now deep to the last man. Sure they may not have someone quite like Ray Allen, Starbury, or Kobe, but they sure have a lot more depth.
I think JWill is gonna be key this season. Miller and Pau are important, but I think JWill is most important to this team's success. He has emerged as a top 5 PG(no exaggeration) and now he needs to take over the team. Be the leader. This is HIS team.
Stars aren't obtained through trades. They are developed. And right now Grizzlies' future looks bright.
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