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UofMark · 09-11-2002, 01:01 PM

I agree with you totally about JWill. He started out very erratic last season but changed his game considerably for the better as the season went on. When he would come out of a game after starting, you could just feel the energy level on the floor drop. As for his stats, you're correct in saying they're skewed toward the bad side simply because our offensive sets were so erratic and poorly executed he didn't have any choice but to shoot some low percentage shots. If we stay healthy, and surround JWill with some true NBA'ers, his game will lift itself accordingly.

Pause · 09-16-2002, 06:27 PM

iam a knick fan but because of there awul management and reluctancy to rebuild i watched allot of younger teams liek the grizzlies and clippers on the dish last year i have two comments regarding the grizz organazation...

1.i love jerry west and im not knocking him but the one thing that surprised me in that he seemed to take the "safe" pick in the draft for the first time in his career... i expected him to take a potential superstar in wagner or butler and worry about where they fit on the team later on like he did with the lakers... or if not that there were allot of teams interested in that pick i tohught west would trade the pick for a few players that could fill hoels on his team.. maybe gooden will be betetr then i think but it just surprised me he took the safe pick there do any grizz fans feel the same way??

2.Stromile Swift at this point in his development is ahead of darius miles... they are both athletic freaks who get 90% of there points on fast breaks dunks and alley oops but swift at times showed flashes of a post game and shot where miles has shown zero offensive moves... if i ddint pay attention to hype and looked at thme unbiasely to there present devlopment id give the edge to Swift..

everything from his body to style of play is reminescent of a young shawn kemp theres no reason he cant be as good as Kemp was in his prime but its all up to Stromile to live up to that promise..

**Dakota** · 09-16-2002, 07:50 PM

You know the way I see it about drafting Drew Gooden this year is that although it is a safe pick , it also is a very solid pick. This kid has potential to be like Tim Thomas or Antoine Walker. Well, maybe not as good offensively as Antoine, but could get very close in the future. I don't think that Jerry West could take a chance on a pick for a team that needs to win games next year. For the Lakers when he drafted guys like Kobe, Fisher, and Patterson , there was room to leave guys to develop because that team was already playoff caliber without the rookies. These Grizzlies need a solid players around there whole team. Guys like Swift, Dickerson, and Williams can further use there unbelievable atheltic ability to help this team get better. In the long run, drafting Gooden will help this team tremendously. Maybe in a few years West can gamble on potential superstar, but just not at this point

word out to LD

jsa · 09-19-2002, 03:15 PM

Jayson Williams is going to hold that team back. They have scoring and athleticism, why not try to get a fundamental point guard, who would be happy to pass the ball and gut up on defense. Addition by subtraction.

Gasol and Battier are a great complimentary set of forwards. When you put Swift in, he plays if he does the right thing, sits if he doesn't. If he can get it mentally, he'll improve and earn time.

I don't beleive Dickerson is good enough in the long run to be the two guard, but if he is healthy, he can be decent now. Battier should not be used much here, in my opinion.

Everybody has center problems. There are six or seven centers who you might be able to get for Swift or Williams, such as Mihm, Woods, Mohammmed,E. Johnson or even Olowokandi. They are not much better, if any, than what you got.

As the long term plan, I would look for a defensive center and solid as rock point, add 1 more scorer at the two, and build around two or three of the forwards.Add a little role player veteran depth and your in the playoffs.

2003-2004 and Memphis can be heard from.

**Dakota** · 09-19-2002, 03:51 PM

Alright now all those centers you mentioned are no where close skill wise to each other. Michael Olowakandi is the 2nd best center in the leauge. I don't know how you can say that, he is not much better than what we got. He is a hek of alot better than what we got. NO disrespect to Lorenzen but Olowakandi has him by a long shot. Loren Woods was a rookie last year, and didn't even play, so I don't why you even mentioned him. Chris Mihm and Nahzi Mohammed are both good centers and could be very good in the future. Earvin Johnson is good, but he is also old so I don't think anyone would try to pick him up for just a couple of years.

word out

hogey11 · 10-15-2002, 05:42 PM

Wow, i cant believe i missed this thread throughout its prime..... if only i had a time machine.....

what do you guys think about the recent developments in grizz land, with Gooden showing potential to be as good as he was at the college level, the emergence of Gordon Giricek, and the improving play of Stromile Swift? i know that it is the preseason, but all three of these guys are giving Sidney Lowe a justifiable reason to start every one of them.

(secretly, this is a feeble attempt to revive this thread.... i hope it works

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bdachakeya · 10-15-2002, 09:38 PM

hogey11, I think it's a good thing. This brings on better competition when vying for playing time. And by the look of things so far, a few of the players we had penciled in for starting spots at the beginning might be in a little trouble. I've been real impressed with the way Gooden and Giricek have come into camp and are showing that they're not just going to be two normal rookies who are going to accept being backups without giving a fight to be starters. I must admit, I was one of many who didn't think that Drew was the best pick for this team, but looks like he's proving me and alot others wrong. If these are not in the starting line-up at the beginning of the season, it sure won't be because they weren't productive enough. I can't wait until this team gets to the point where they had started geling with each other, because with the showing of the rookies in the preseason the bench can be very deadly to their opponents.

hogey11 · 10-16-2002, 03:08 PM

I agree. I think that if gasol turns out to be a superstar, this team could become the next new jersey nets, in that they arent limited to a 7-8 man rotation, but have 10-12 players that can come in and contribute. the only problem i see is that there may not be enough touches for everyone. Giricek doesnt really need that much preparation as he has been playing pro in europe for probably a decade already. he is probably the most nba-ready of the two rookies. I think that if Pau Gasol can play the center, it will really open up a lot of options for the grizz. battier pretty much has the SF spot locked up, as hes too good a player to bring off the bench. It will really be interesting to see how lowe sets up this team. i have big expectations for them this year.... not tooo big, but big nonetheless.

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