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Old 12-16-2003, 04:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Read talula's post. Stromile is one of the most improved players this year, in my opinion, and that's not just because I'm a Memphis fan. He's not on the level of Ronald Murray or Zach Randolph, but he's still shown great improvements just like his ten-game surge in March of the 02-03 season. Being in Hubie's doghouse for a long time, he wouldn't be seeing much playing time, unless he vastly improved on most aspects of the game. If there's one thing he does better than dunk, it's shotblocking. His rebounding isn't quite there, but you're forgetting that he's still a very young player, and even when he gets 30 minutes, he gets about 8 rebounds or more. His jumpshot has come a long way, and I fully trust him on the 15-footers out on the key nowadays.
But people on this board are talking him up like he is some All star PF and you tell me this. Is he better than Chris Webber, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Jermaine O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki, and Kenyon Martin? And guys like Nenê Hilario, Zach Randolph, and Amare Stoudemire are worlds ahead of Stromile Swift at this point.

Yes Stromile is a very solid prospect and has great potential but I do not think he deserves as much praise as he is getting on this board. He is a solid player but I sure hope learning how to make a little 15 foot jumper more often or blocking a few shots means he has arrived.

People say he is still young and that is true, but he has been in the NBA for four years, and he did not come straight out of high school.
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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But people on this board are talking him up like he is some All star PF and you tell me this. Is he better than Chris Webber, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Jermaine O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki, and Kenyon Martin? And guys like Nenê Hilario, Zach Randolph, and Amare Stoudemire are worlds ahead of Stromile Swift at this point.



No one has said anything remotely resembling that.

Do you just want to argue? Your observations on Stromile thus far have made me think that you haven't even seen the guy play recently. And I'm not even a Stro fan.

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Ok when people claim that a player like him should start over a player like Pau Gasol I question how great they really think he is? If he is so great and should start over Gasol people must think he is pretty damn good wouldn't you think?

And I'm saying he is not that freaking great. Oh but those Sport Center dunks make him great I guess.
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This is pathetic, people say start Stromile? Why? Because he gets cool kick *** dunks that are shown on Sports Center and Stuart Scott says some supposedly hip phrase to go along with it? Stromile is a solid player but just because he can dunk doesn't mean he is a great player yet.
Ozzy, I'm gonna try to spare you some time and pride. You obviously don't know anything about Stromile, so just stop talking. Don't make an *** out of yourself.
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Ozzy, I'm gonna try to spare you some time and pride. You obviously don't know anything about Stromile, so just stop talking. Don't make an *** out of yourself.
So I should just recycle what has already been said about him because it pretty much sums it up. But you guys get back to me when he is a All Star starter in all of his greatness. Frankly the kid is a flop plan and simple and to say he isn't, well your just lying. Oh he is young, sorry but 4 years is a long time!
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but you're forgetting that he's still a very young player
Exactly. You have to remember that, had he not left for the NBA after his freshman year at LSU, this would only be his first or second season in the NBA.
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Stromile would put up numbers just as good as Pau's if he played the same amount of minutes, while playing twice the defense. Its as simple that.
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Do you just want to argue?
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Oh he is young, sorry but 4 years is a long time!
He has been in the NBA four years. He left LSU after his freshman year. So yes, he is still young.
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So I should just recycle what has already been said about him because it pretty much sums it up. But you guys get back to me when he is a All Star starter in all of his greatness. Frankly the kid is a flop plan and simple and to say he isn't, well your just lying. Oh he is young, sorry but 4 years is a long time!
Hey, Ozzy, how much of Stromile have you seen? The fact that you said, " This is pathetic, people say start Stromile? Why? Because he gets cool kick *** dunks that are shown on Sports Center and Stuart Scott says some supposedly hip phrase to go along with it? Stromile is a solid player but just because he can dunk doesn't mean he is a great player yet. ", shows how little you know about the guy. He's a monster on the boards and a rejection machine. All-star? Maybe. I'm not the one who said it and only time will tell. But I'd say he has all-star potential. And go ask the brass in Memphis why the hell they don't want to play this kid. He's ALWAYS produced when given the minutes.
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Exactly. You have to remember that, had he not left for the NBA after his freshman year at LSU, this would only be his first or second season in the NBA.
It was his sophomore year at LSU that he left.

And sure bench Pau, maybe Stromile will put up those kind of numbers. But again frankly I think the kid is a flop. He has not used his athletic superiority to his advantage. Coming out of college he had all the potential in the world, but if people are satisfied with him maybe averaging 15 points a game thats fine. I think he has underachieved big time and there is a reason he doesn't start. That would be great if he turns it around but not sure that is going to happen. If a athletic freak like Amare can come into the NBA out of high school, produce, play great basketball and use his strengths why can't Stromile?
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Bro, give it up. You do this with every damn argument you're in. You're always trying to impart "knowledge" on "misinformed" posters. It's getting old. sometimes you're right but this time you're wrong. Like I said before, the fact that you think Stromile is just a dunking machine shows that you really don't know about him. Just give it up, man. You're entitled to your own opinion but at least make it informed.
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It was his sophomore year at LSU that he left.

And sure bench Pau, maybe Stromile will put up those kind of numbers. But again frankly I think the kid is a flop. He has not used his athletic superiority to his advantage. Coming out of college he had all the potential in the world, but if people are satisfied with him maybe averaging 15 points a game thats fine. I think he has underachieved big time and there is a reason he doesn't start. That would be great if he turns it around but not sure that is going to happen. If a athletic freak like Amare can come into the NBA out of high school, produce, play great basketball and use his strengths why can't Stromile?
Ah, my bad.

I like Stro because of his agressivness. He is a great spark off the bench. Pau is better than him, sure, but remember, Pau is soft. So let's say Pau is in foul trouble or playing bad, Hubie takes him out and brings in Stro. That brings in a whole new dimension to the post for Memphis. Since Stro is forced to bench it for most of the beginning of the game, when he comes in, he wants to make the most of his minutes. His D might need some work, but it seems to be better than Gasol's.
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The kid had greatness written all over him when he got drafted, and he is not great and I doubt he will ever be great.

If anyone remembers him in 10 years I would be surprised, and sad thing is they will only remember him for his dunks.

If other people set the bar low for him thats fine, but I think he has been a big time flop so far. Sure he produces a little bit in the NBA but he could do so much more.


But if people are satisfied with that, thats your deal.
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