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Old 06-10-2004, 05:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Off Season Dealings

The Grizzlies Report By Robert Ducklo June 7, 2004
The most underrated thing that Jerry West has done since taking over the Grizzlies is to pick up quality players through the use of the mid-level exception. In the summer of 2002, West used the MLE to acquire both Earl Watson and Cezary Trybanski and last summer, West used the full exception on swingman James Posey. Based on the reports leading up to these signings, it seems that West targets a number of players and then starts talking with several of them before a final signing is made.
In addition to those players whom West signed, the Logo reportedly also has talked to players such as Jerome James, Alonzo Mourning, Scottie Pippen, Michael Olowokandi and Ira Newble.
It’s difficult to get a good read on the player(s) whom West will go after simply because we don’t know the results of the expansion draft and the NBA draft. But it’s safe to say that the Grizzlies will be looking for size this off-season since their deficiencies on the defensive boards hurt them in the playoffs. Here are some of the names that could be important for the Grizzlies this summer:
Restricted free agents
Stromile Swift
The Stro Show is a question mark this summer as he is one of the Grizzlies restricted free agents. Unfortunately, Swift’s four seasons in the NBA have not given much of an indication of what he’s worth. Stro’s inconsistent play has gotten better over the years, but he still hasn’t become a solid NBA power forward. However, Stro continues to show flashes of brilliance, especially when he relies on his instincts.
So what’s Stro worth? It will be interesting to see what other teams may offer him. My guess – he gets a mid-level deal (or slightly better) for 4 years and the Griz don’t match it.
Jake Tsakalidis
Big Jake is the Grizzlies other restricted free agent to deal with this summer. Some say that he’s headed back to Europe, but West has indicated that he’ll negotiate with Jake this summer. It would be nice to keep Tsakalidis simply because he provides size that the Griz lack.
My guess – he signs for a short term (3 year) deal for something like $1.5-2 million per year.
Chris Mihm
Mihm is big (7-0) and skilled, but he’s not a force in the post and he hasn’t played with aggression since coming into the league. Adding a player like Mihm likely won’t solve the Grizzlies post problems since he’s not a defensive stopper and is just an average rebounder. Still, Mihm is big and skilled and can be had for less than the MLE.
Etan Thomas
Thomas is one of those guys I’ve always liked despite the fact that he’s not overly skilled and he is undersized. And since skill and size are things that Jerry West values, Thomas seems to be an unlikely signee. But Thomas has good character, is a big body and a hard worker and I’ve always wondered if he could develop into a Ben Wallace-type. An offer under the MLE could get Thomas.
Joel Przybilla
Przybilla is big and he can rebound. Also, he should be pretty cheap. He’s unskilled, but he would be brought in just to rebound and block shots. He’s an average player and the Griz may already have a better version in Jake Tsakalidis. But, again, he’s cheap.
Unrestricted Free Agents
Mark Blount
Blount improved his stock with a good season in Boston. He’s expected to opt out of his low paying deal and he should have several suitors. He’s big (7-0) and can rebound, but he’s had a history of injuries and it’s probably dangerous to overpay him. He’ll be an interesting guy to watch this summer.
Mehmet Okur
Okur likely is well out of the Griz price range since other teams (Phoenix? Denver?) may offer him more than the MLE. Also, the Pistons may want to keep him – especially if Rasheed Wallace leaves. Still, as the Griz search for a center, Okur may be a possibility.
Antonio McDyess
The price may be right as McDyess has lost some of the athleticism that made him a star. Still, McDyess knows how to play and could be a nice addition to some team this summer. Rumors have started swirling that he’d like to play in Houston – indicating that he still thinks of himself as a starter despite his lessened mobility.
Marquis Daniels
Daniels had an impressive rookie season in Dallas and some team could get him if they are willing to overpay. He’s young, athletic and poised and he can play either guard position. But he got his shot in Dallas and word is that Nellie wants him in the starting line-up next season.
Rodney White
White is another possibility if the Griz lose a swingman in the expansion draft or via trade. West is supposedly a fan and White’s game would fit in with the Grizzlies’ transition game. Rumors are that the Bobcats want him and Denver may want to keep him around since he is Carmelo Anthony’s best friend on the team.
Adonal Foyle
Foyle is tall and has good character, but he’s spent a good amount of time on the injured list. He is a legit 7-0 center, but is he really any better than Lorenzen Wright? Nope, he’s not as good as Ren.
Brent Barry
Barry is looking for a final MLE contract and his solid play last season may earn him one. I can’t imagine the Griz going after him unless they lose a guard or two. Barry also is somewhat injury prone. However, he can shoot and can play both guard positions.
Jarron Collins & Greg Ostertag
Collins and Ostertag are the two Utah centers who are available this summer. Collins is young and more athletic while Ostertag is a more physical presence. Neither likely will solve the Grizzlies rebounding woes.
Eric Williams
Williams is a solid veteran swingman who would bring experience and toughness to the Grizzlies. However, Williams turns 31 next month and the Griz already have a glut at swingman. He’s only a possibility if a trade is made or the Griz lose a swingman in the expansion draft. Very unlikely.
Conclusion
As usual, I have no clue whom Jerry West will go after this summer – his best option really is his own restricted free agent, Stromile Swift. The problem there is that Swift still remains behind Pau Gasol at the 4. While West may get some help via free agency – especially if the Griz lose a swingman (expansion draft or trade) – don’t expect a blockbuster signing.
Now a blockbuster trade…that may be possible.

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Old 06-10-2004, 06:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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See Artest, Harrington, & filler for Stro, Shane, Bonzi & Earl. I think that would quality as the block buster trade he refers to.
Not gonna happen, but an interesting thought.
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Foyle's a guy I've been looking at, but he's not even close to 7'0. He's more like 6'10. Foyle as a "legit 7'0" is almost comedic. I'd say he's smaller than Ren, but a superior shotblocker and defender. Not all that bad of a rebounder either, despite his size. ABYSMAL on offense.

He's a guy that could be had for the minimum following a lousy injury-filled season at Golden State. I'm not against signing him.

Foyle at 7'0. This Robert Ducklo either has some serious brain damage or is a toaster that can type. I don't know why we'd even glance at half the guys he lists.
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Chris Andersen's another guy we should look at if we want a cheap fix on defensive rebounds. He's skinny and doesn't add too much size in the pain, but he grabs nearly 10 defensive rebounds per 48 minutes.
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Folye is heavier than Ren. About 20 pounds. The Grizzlies are pretty good for height but light in on bulk. E. Thomas or Foyle could be complimentary players for Pau. He needs someone to take care of the dirty work.
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Foyle is officially listed at 6'10, 265 lbs.
Wright is listed at 6'11, 240 lbs.

I wouldn't mind getting Foyle or Etan Thomas, but I'd still like to keep Lorenzen if possible. He played well coming off the bench at the beginning of the season. He was averaging around 11 points and 7 rebounds in 24 mpg.
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I would like to see Ren stay as well. He brings intensity to the team whether starting or as a sub. The big problem is that we have three very good power forwards and only one decent center on the roster.

I think that we will match offers that Stro and Jake get and sign a center plus trade for one.

The second round draft pick will probably be used to replace who ever we lose in the expansion draft.

I keep feeling that Jerry will surprise us all with something though. Al Jefferson...... He is a big fella with athleticism and leadership potential. I wouldn't be total surprised if Jerry didn't make a move to draft him. He has been complimentary to Jefferson but he was to that big guy from Birmingham last year as well.

The Grizzlies' management is quiet and denying that anyone is leaving a lot lately which makes me wonder if Jerry has a plan and has been letting the media through out the red herrings for him to disguise his intentions.
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Two other guys that could help would be Mutumbo, and Haywood.

I know mutombo is old and washed up and will die of old age any second now blah blah, but pretty much any time he gets 30+ minutes he puts up 10+ boards.
and a few blocked shots.

Haywood is also another option who pretty much has the same thing going for him, I understand he's not that motivated of a guy but he is a legit 7 footer who crashes the boards and blocks shots.
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If Swift focus solely and rebounding, I don't see why he can't become a better rebounder. He is a freak athlete with long long arms, I think if he gets a little stronger this off season, he can get close to 7-8 rebounds a game in very few minutes.
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Chris Anderson is a restricted free agent

so is Stromile Swift

I see denver going after both

how much is Stromile worth to you?

Because you might be bidding against Denver

Camby will opt out of his last year at 7.75 million

Do you think Denver wont match you on birdman?
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Chris Anderson is a restricted free agent

so is Stromile Swift

I see denver going after both

how much is Stromile worth to you?

Because you might be bidding against Denver

Camby will opt out of his last year at 7.75 million

Do you think Denver wont match you on birdman?
As much as Denver wants him, I don't think any team in the league is ready to offer him anything more than the MLE. Denver has Nene, Camby, Francisco, and Anderson. They are looking pretty good. I don't see why they would overpay for Swift when they have plenty of capable big men?
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denver doesnt have camby
he is opting out

was scheduled to be paid 7.75 million next season

swift is on the radar screen

birdman is a RFA
we have an option on Elson

skita hasnt proven a thing

an doleac hopefully wont be back unless he takes the nba min

were over 20 million under the cap and unloading skita and Andre Miller for things ive been proposing could bring us down even more
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yea I agree especially because of camby's crazy agent

he shouldnt get more than 3 years
we will see what happens

but swift is a definite an alternative and adds to the young core

especially if he got offered a starting job at the 4
i'm not sure whe kinds of offers he will get
but denver wont be needing to use any exceptions to get him
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denver doesnt have camby
he is opting out

was scheduled to be paid 7.75 million next season
Camby is opting out, but will have a new contract with Denver. Not set in stone yet, but that's been the talk.

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swift is on the radar screen

birdman is a RFA
we have an option on Elson

skita hasnt proven a thing

an doleac hopefully wont be back unless he takes the nba min

were over 20 million under the cap and unloading skita and Andre Miller for things ive been proposing could bring us down even more
I doubt Denver pays Swift more than a $6 million starting salary to play backup PF/C. Right now, he hasn't proven much, other than being a highlight reel. I doubt another team drastically overpays for him. It sounds more like you want him in Denver than Denver does.

I could see Swift in Atlanta, where they don't have a starting-quality PF and have money to spend for one. I doubt Memphis matches more than the MLE, but I don't see many teams giving him more than that.

I see a sign-and-trade coming with him.
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considering his agent and kiki are already TRYING to negoiate his new contract...id say its pretty solid he's opting out

we wouldnt go after swift to be a reserve
its camby or swift.....not both

we can outbid memphis if we want
depends on a lot

but he blocks shots and rebounds and he's young

defintely and option that will be strongly considered

6 years 36 million is that what your saying you think he is worth?
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