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Old 01-13-2008, 11:16 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I agree completely. Those players are the only ones that we should consider. Hopefully they all come out and we get at least a top 6 pick. Otherwise we just wasted a season with nothing to show for it. At the moment, I think I'm favoring drafting Beasley + trading UD with Blount to clear enough caspace to make an acquisition like Gilbert Arenas.
Yep, if we don't get a Top 6 pick (or even less if some them players don't come out ), I'll be real pissed. After them 6, I think theres a pretty big drop-off in talent, potential and appeal to the team.

If we can trade Haslem for a good player (eg. Bibby / Artest), or to clear enough capspace to make a good FA acquisition, I'm all for picking Beasley,, but given our recent trade/FA history, it's not likely to happen.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:20 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Yep, if we don't get a Top 6 pick (or even less if some them players don't come out ), I'll be real pissed. After them 6, I think theres a pretty big drop-off in talent, potential and appeal to the team.

If we can trade Haslem for a good player (eg. Bibby / Artest), or to clear enough capspace to make a good FA acquisition, I'm all for picking Beasley,, but given our recent trade/FA history, it's not likely to happen.
If we could trade Blount+Haslem for expirings+, we'd have capspace. Our problem with recent FAs is that all we had is the MLE. I want Arenas. Aside from his bad defense, he's a good fit next to Wade IMO. He can score whil Wade can pass and not be such a ballhog (what he wants to do).
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Beasley is gonna have to find a new number though...I hope you didn't order that cuz you know Earl ain't giving his **** up to no rookie
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Barron doesn't need that number. I heard Jordan called up Riley and insisted that they unretire his number and let Earl wear it.

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If we could trade Blount+Haslem for expirings+, we'd have capspace. Our problem with recent FAs is that all we had is the MLE. I want Arenas. Aside from his bad defense, he's a good fit next to Wade IMO. He can score whil Wade can pass and not be such a ballhog (what he wants to do).
I don't think it's possible because we would have to send Haslem off right now for a player expiring after this season.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:27 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Re: The Official Miami Heat NBA Draft Lottery Thread

Yea we'd have to make the trade before the deadline, and then hope our season ends horribly and the lotto goes well.

If no Beasley, we'd be playing Barron at PF??

I'm interested in Arenas playing next to Wade. I think it's fairly high risk and reward, don't kno really. If his knee holds up, they'd be great as long as Gilbert knows not to shoot like a 1st option.
Btw, who are the Top 5 FA's this offseason?
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I don't think it's possible because we would have to send Haslem off right now for a player expiring after this season.
I proposed Udonis Haslem+Mark Blount for Kwame Brown (expiring)+Sasha Vujacic (expiring)+Javaris Crittenton on the Lakers board, and they countered with a 2008 1st instead of Critt. Either way, we'd get our cap space.
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Yea we'd have to make the trade before the deadline, and then hope our season ends horribly and the lotto goes well.

If no Beasley, we'd be playing Barron at PF??

I'm interested in Arenas playing next to Wade. I think it's fairly high risk and reward, don't kno really. If his knee holds up, they'd be great as long as Gilbert knows not to shoot like a 1st option.
Btw, who are the Top 5 FA's this offseason?
I don't know any good lists, but i'd say Arenas, Artest, Brand, JO, Iverson, Deng, Gordon, Okafor, Iggy, Marion, Calderon, Jamison, Josh Smith, and Maggette are the names that stand out on ESPN's list. They don't list Bibby, but I've seen him listed as having an ETO this offseason.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...2008FreeAgents
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I proposed Udonis Haslem+Mark Blount for Kwame Brown (expiring)+Sasha Vujacic (expiring)+Javaris Crittenton on the Lakers board, and they countered with a 2008 1st instead of Critt. Either way, we'd get our cap space.
Yeah, but there's no guarantee that we can replace Haslem. Also, the Wizards can offer Arenas waaaay more than us because they own his Bird rights and I really don't want to go down that road of waiting to get outbid.

Besides, Haslem only makes what, $6 mill per? For a quality starting big man in this league that can play center that's not something we should be looking to move. At least until after we get Beasley because I believe Beasley is a 100% power forward and if we drafted him then we would need to move Haslem.
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I don't know any good lists, but i'd say Arenas, Artest, Brand, JO, Iverson, Deng, Gordon, Okafor, Iggy, Marion, Calderon, Jamison, Josh Smith, and Maggette are the names that stand out on ESPN's list. They don't list Bibby, but I've seen him listed as having an ETO this offseason.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...2008FreeAgents
K. If we didn't have Shaq I'd love Brand

Is an ETO just a Team Option?
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I'd like to see if Brand can return to his near-MVP level before getting a chubby over him.
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K. If we didn't have Shaq I'd love Brand

Is an ETO just a Team Option?
It's a player option. I'd like Brand too. I suppose we could try to get Keith Van Horn (S&T) + Diop for Shaq.
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