[HEATLUNATIC]

Originally Posted by Pain5155

heat are gonna make that push for the 8ths seed. dont get ur hopes up, its only been like 25 games.

We're losing to teams like Atlanta, Charlotte, Seattle and Washington on a consistent basis and it took everything we had to beat Minnesota!

No one is getting their hopes up...

[NewAgeBaller]

a Rose + Wade backcourt sounds like fun but in reality i don think it'd work great, just good. they'd still both put up good numbers but each of their production would be brought down a little bit by the other being on the team. they're very similar players actualy.
i still like beasley, hes beasting it but its just college so who knos, he culd turn out a minor in the nba. lotta potential tho, him and wade.
if we get the 5-10 pick, so guys like gordon/beasley/rose/jordan are def gone, who u got? anyone making a play for mayo? havnt seen donte green or nicholas batum play, hows they game? is hibbert still a top 10 pick?

[MB30]

You probably have to go with Hibbert. Hes ready to play right now, hes big, Georgetown boy so Zo will love him. Hes a legit center in this league.

Depending on the pick though - Mayo would be a good choice. His stock seems to be slipping a little, mainly because of how Rose and Beasley are playing - but that he seems less of a pure point. Still, the Heat desperately need scorers. He could also be picked and then traded.

As unlikely as it is that we get a #1 pick...man id love to have Mike Beasley on this team.

[B-Easy]

I would give Hibbert and maybe even Kevin Love some strong looks. We need to start looking for our future Big Man.

[MB30]

We need a future everything but Shooting Guard. Seriously, every position is available - not just big man. Id say Wade and Haslem are the only guys who have a position held down for the future right now. We need to bring in some talent or Wade will walk in a few years time.

When you look at the depth of this draft, its pretty astounding. Look at the calibre of guys who can go in the lottery!

Michael Beasley
Derrick Rose
OJ Mayo
Roy Hibbert
Kevin Love
DeAndre Jordan
Eric Gordon
Donte Green
Jerryd Bayless
Chase Budinger
Kosta Koufos

On any other draft, all these guys would go top 5. Itll be interesting to see what happens in June.

[B-Easy]

Add Nicolas Batum to the lotto players. The kid is going to be something special.

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/prof...olasbatum.html

[KingOfTheHeatians]

I still don't see us being in the top 3 unless Wade gets hurt again. Somewhere between 5-10 is probably our destination. It's just hard to finish that low with a top 5 player on your team. I haven't seen ANY of DeAndre Jordan though I'm underwhelmed by his stat line. 9 points, 7 boards and 1 block? Really? I love Hibbert and he would seem to make a lot of sense. He'll be ready to play immediately.

I also like Chase Buddinger as a sweet-shooting 3-man next to D-Wade, kind of a more athletic Kapono. If we actually were in a position to choose between Beastley and Rose, I'd probably take Beastley just because Rose and Wade are so similar in style.

Eric Gordon is fabulous but we really have no use for him. Mayo is a cancer. Stay away. I would also love Kevin Love. I love his passing, his skill level and feel for the game.

[NewAgeBaller]

^ DeAndre Jordan i havnt seem play in a game, just highlights, but the scouts really seem to like him. large legit nba bigman size with a great natural frame to add weight to if needed, excellent athleticism for a guy of his size, explosion to the rim, good shotblocker and rebounder, best potential for a big of the future.

after beasley i'd probly go hibbert as a big,, not feeling kevin love (yet) and kosta koufos on this team, tho i havnt seem them play.
and if we draft DeAndre Jordan or Roy Hibbert, does that mean they'll be playing backseat to Shaq till his contract expires..?
i still think our biggest need is a future bigman. our best young big is earl barron. wat a promising future..

[MB30]

Even if we finish with the 5th worst record, doesnt mean we cant jump to top 3 in the lottery. Boston and Memphis had the worst records last year and they fell to 4 and 5.

1st choice is Beasley. You cant pass up that skillset...wow, hes gonna be good.

2nd for me is Rose. Wade and Rose is a blistering backcourt...is 2 Wades on the same team a bad thing?nope!

3rd choice would be Hibbert. Hes massive, experienced and ready to play...but will he just sit behind Shaq for the next few years?

4th choice would be DeAndre Jordan. This kid has big time potential, and we could afford to let him sit behind Shaq and learn to defend and score from 2 of the best (Shaq and Zo).

Anyone else - ill be mildly pleased, but not as ecstatic as if we picked up any of these guys.

[KingOfTheHeatians]

I'm always wary of big guys where the word you use the most to describe them is "potential." Just being 7-foot and mobile is enough to make you a lottery pick. Doesn't mean you can play. Jordan could be the next Diop for all we know. You'd like to see a little bit of production out of a guy you're taking that high. Hibbert is a far safer pick. We know that he can actually play ball. He's not just big. He has scoring skills and he's a good passer as well.

I'm pretty torn on Beastley and Rose. I love them both. I just think that Beastley and Wade would complement each other a little better. It's like having AI and Melo on the same team in Denver. Yes, they're both fantastic. But they both need to do a lot of the same things to be successful, so they don't play off each other as well. I don't think Rose is an off the ball PG and we all know Wade needs to have the ball in his hands.

Now, that doesn't mean I'm not going to do cartwheels if we get Rose because, like I said, I love his game. His athleticism, his mental approach to the game, his understanding of the position are all outstanding. He has the potential to be a dominating defensive player. But I would probably take Beastley if I had the choice.

[NewAgeBaller]

Originally Posted by BG44

Even if we finish with the 5th worst record, doesnt mean we cant jump to top 3 in the lottery. Boston and Memphis had the worst records last year and they fell to 4 and 5.

1st choice is Beasley. You cant pass up that skillset...wow, hes gonna be good.

2nd for me is Rose. Wade and Rose is a blistering backcourt...is 2 Wades on the same team a bad thing?nope!

3rd choice would be Hibbert. Hes massive, experienced and ready to play...but will he just sit behind Shaq for the next few years?

4th choice would be DeAndre Jordan. This kid has big time potential, and we could afford to let him sit behind Shaq and learn to defend and score from 2 of the best (Shaq and Zo).

Anyone else - ill be mildly pleased, but not as ecstatic as if we picked up any of these guys.

i agree i wuldnt be as ecstatic as picking up those guys in particular, except i mite intercahnge hibbert and jordan just coz my excitement for him is dieing after he took up another year, just coz im familiarising with him i guess. don kno, i like jordan over hibbert but yea hibbert is the smarter choice.

btw, with your rankings, does your 3rd choice (for example) mean thats who u'd take with the 3rd pick? or just that hes the 3rd player ur most interested in?
coz, say if hibbert/jordan are going 5th or 6th, and u got the 3rd pick, and theres a noticeable talent margin between whoevers at #3 (say gordon) and #5 (eg. hibbert), would u draft the big anyway? trade down mayb but i dont see that happening.

[The '93 Heat]

Originally Posted by KingOfTheHeatians

I'm always wary of big guys where the word you use the most to describe them is "potential." Just being 7-foot and mobile is enough to make you a lottery pick. Doesn't mean you can play. Jordan could be the next Diop for all we know. You'd like to see a little bit of production out of a guy you're taking that high. Hibbert is a far safer pick. We know that he can actually play ball. He's not just big. He has scoring skills and he's a good passer as well.

I'm pretty torn on Beastley and Rose. I love them both. I just think that Beastley and Wade would complement each other a little better. It's like having AI and Melo on the same team in Denver. Yes, they're both fantastic. But they both need to do a lot of the same things to be successful, so they don't play off each other as well. I don't think Rose is an off the ball PG and we all know Wade needs to have the ball in his hands.

Now, that doesn't mean I'm not going to do cartwheels if we get Rose because, like I said, I love his game. His athleticism, his mental approach to the game, his understanding of the position are all outstanding. He has the potential to be a dominating defensive player. But I would probably take Beastley if I had the choice.

You admit that you haven't seen him play then say that you haven't seen any production out of him. Do you see the irony in that? He's playing behind a senior and sophomore who are really good and he is putting up awesome stats for a team with national title hopes. At least form an opinion from evidence because him becoming Diop in the future still wouldn't validate you forming an opinion based on feeling and not fact.

[MB30]