[KingOfTheHeatians]

Originally Posted by adam

You admit that you haven't seen him play then say that you haven't seen any production out of him. Do you see the irony in that? He's playing behind a senior and sophomore who are really good and he is putting up awesome stats for a team with national title hopes. At least form an opinion from evidence because him becoming Diop in the future still wouldn't validate you forming an opinion based on feeling and not fact.

Who is he playing behind? He's started every game this season and playing 20 minutes per game. Why is there irony in saying he's not producing big numbers while not having seen him play? I'm just saying that 9 points and 7 rebounds for a supposed phenom are underwhelming to me. And is more than 1 block per game for an agile 7-footer who plays 20 minutes per game too much to ask?

He needs to stay in school and develop like Hibbert did. Hibbert wasn't a big factor his freshman year, but he stayed and developed and now you know what you're getting with him. If Jordan comes out after this year, you would have no idea which way he would go. It's too risky to pick a guy like that with such a high pick.

[The '93 Heat]

Originally Posted by KingOfTheHeatians

Who is he playing behind?

Bryan Davis and Joseph Jones

He's started every game this season and playing 20 minutes per game. Why is there irony in saying he's not producing big numbers while not having seen him play? I'm just saying that 9 points and 7 rebounds for a supposed phenom are underwhelming to me. And is more than 1 block per game for an agile 7-footer who plays 20 minutes per game too much to ask?

He needs to stay in school and develop like Hibbert did. Hibbert wasn't a big factor his freshman year, but he stayed and developed and now you know what you're getting with him. If Jordan comes out after this year, you would have no idea which way he would go. It's too risky to pick a guy like that with such a high pick.

You have never seen him play so how can you know whether it's risky or not? Comparing him to Hibbert is way too much of a compliment to Hibbert. Hibbert will be lucky to even be a top 10 pick. The lottery teams all passed on him last year and I don't expect anything to change this year. Jordan isn't a "supposed" phenom. He IS a phenom. He's that rare combination of size and power. He's shooting 80% from the field so how are you going to say that he isn't productive? He's just playing for a team that is competing for a national championship and is trying to win right away so they're playing a sophomore instead of him.

I'm a student at A&M and I've seen every minute of DeAndre so if we are indeed in position to pick in the top 5 then I'll gladly update this forum about DeAndre Jordan throughout the year instead of the misinformation that you would otherwise get from the intarwebz.

[MB30]

I would like to here your insights adam, keep us updated.

[The '93 Heat]

This situation has serious parallels to the Okafor Howard debate from a few years ago. People looked at Howard and said that he was nothing but athleticism and they trashed the Magic for not taking Okafor.

[MB30]

If Jordan is anywhere near the Dwight Howard/LaMarcus Aldridge mould....wow, thatd be nice on this team. Still, hes a long way 2 go before proving this. Workouts will be huge for him.

[KingOfTheHeatians]

Well, since you're an Aggies fan, could you explain to me how Jordan is playing "behind" anyone while starting every game?

[NewAgeBaller]

yea workouts are gona be huge for jordan.

btw, nbadraft.net has jordan's nba comparison as dwight howard. are they games all that similar or is that mainly off potential/size/etc..?
and just how gud is jordans potential?

[The '93 Heat]

Originally Posted by KingOfTheHeatians

Well, since you're an Aggies fan, could you explain to me how Jordan is playing "behind" anyone while starting every game?

The same way Dorell Wright plays behind Ricky Davis even though he starts.

[KingOfTheHeatians]

Davis comes off the bench because his shoot-first mentality is better for the second unit than the first. Is that why Bryan Davis comes off the bench? And Davis and Jordan play virtually equal minutes. So, I'm not sure how you can say Jordan is playing behind him playing the same minutes and starting. And if he can't be the man as a 7-foot "phenom" in today's age of college basketball, I'm not sure I'd make him a top 3 pick.

Greg Oden was the man on a national runner-up team as a freshman. Kevin Love is the man on a FF contender this season. Derrick Rose is the best player on the No. 2 team in the country.

[The '93 Heat]

Davis is the better defender and has more of an offensive repertoire. When the game is on the line you need the most steady players on the floor and Davis, the sophomore, is steadier than Jordan, the freshman.

This isn't some unique example. Marvin Williams didn't start on UNC's championship teams. A&M is interested in winning games and Jordan is very young. Not to mention that these are Billy Gillispie's players and they would ideally like to see the game in the 40's and Jordan just hasn't played basketball on this level long enough to be the defender that his seniors are.

[KingOfTheHeatians]

I wouldn't take Marvin Williams with a top 3 pick either. But I'll try to check the kid out if I ever see A&M on television.

[NewAgeBaller]

so.. how bout that lottery?

[reHEATed]

OJ Mayo would be my top guy

6-5 with pg skills and could shoot. Perfect fit next to Wade imo

my second option would be Gordon...he is less of a pg, but the guy is like Wade scoring wise....and having those two together in a backcourt would be insane and impossible to stop penetration....

Donte Green at sf is interesting...athletic as hell and 6-10....