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Re: The Official Miami Heat NBA Draft Lottery Thread (5 days away!)

Bayless is the best point guard in this draft. He is better than Derrick Rose in every single way imaginable. People always point to Rose's athleticism. Since when do point guards need to be athletic? Mark Jackson? John Stockton? Steve Nash? Jason Kidd? I don't see Chris Paul dunking. Besides, if you want athleticism you can probably find the video of Bayless throwing down an alley oop against Arizona State where the top of his head is level with the rim. Kid has springs in his legs.

Bayless shoots better than Rose, he makes better decisions, and his handle is better. One thing that I noticed about Rose is that he can't change hands at full speed. When he is pushing the ball full court on a solo fastbreak and he is forced to change hands he stops his dribble, takes his one or two steps, and tries to finish. He gets stripped in the lane way too often.

I'm not buying the "he will become a good shooter" argument either. I thought everyone understood from Damon Jones and Rafer that Wade needs a point guard who can defend and knock down the three. Rose can't even shoot free throws yet somehow he is going to make NBA 3-pointers against NBA defenders? Travis Best pt. 2.

Bayless will be the best point guard to come out of this draft. Beasley is the safest pick and I expect him to come in and score the ball a lot like an Antwan Jamison. Finally, I think that O.J. Mayo will end up the best player out of this draft class. I expect him to explode in the NBA like Dwyane Wade because he plays an NBA style and will get to the free throw line regularly. If we end up with Mayo or Bayless I won't be crying.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:22 PM   #872 (permalink)
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Re: The Official Miami Heat NBA Draft Lottery Thread (5 days away!)

While I think you were a bit critical on Rose, I do understand where your skepticism is coming from. I have some fears that are slightly similar, but look at Wade's jump shot and how much that has come around since he started.

I do however think Bayless may be the better fit next to Wade. He is a good shooter, is athletic, can create better than he gets credit for and is also pretty athletic. Not a bad consolation prize at all IMO.

If we finish top 3, and only consider Beasley, Rose or Bayless...ill be happy as hell
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I like Bayless and he'd be my 3rd choice but no team is taking him over Rose.
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Re: The Official Miami Heat NBA Draft Lottery Thread (5 days away!)

Of course not. Everyone wants Rose by now I wouldve thought, but Bayless is gonna be a very good player - and potentially a better fit here than other places.
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Two of the most anticipated events for South Florida sports fans this year -- the NFL Draft and the NBA draft lottery -- aren't even games.

Actually, what ESPN will be airing Tuesday will be the results of the weighted lottery, not the actual lottery. The NBA continues to conduct the lottery behind closed doors, about 90 minutes before the broadcast but in the presence of representatives for every lottery team -- including Heat senior vice president Andy Elisburg.

(The team representatives inside the room are different from the ones who will be on stage during the broadcast, a group that will include the Heat's Dwyane Wade.)

The people in the room where the lottery is performed are not permitted to leave -- or use phones or electronic devices -- to spread the results before ESPN's broadcast at 8 p.m.

During the time in between, the team logos are placed in envelopes, allowing the lottery picks to be revealed in descending order on ESPN.

Besides airing a lottery preview show at 1:30 p.m. Tuesday, ESPN's NBA Shootaround at 7:30 will be lottery-intensive, with Stuart Scott, Jon Barry and Michael Wilbon anchoring from the site of the Eastern Conference finals.

The lottery show will begin at 8 p.m., with Mark Jones, Jay Bilas and reporter Doris Burke hosting on-site from Secaucus, N.J.

As a TV show, the lottery thrives in years like this, when there are a couple of star players. Last year's lottery show generated a 2.0 rating -- ESPN's best for the event -- but below its 2.4 average for playoff games.

Indications are the Heat leans strongly toward taking Memphis point guard Derrick Rose over Kansas State power forward Michael Beasley if it picks first.

''If I were Miami, I would take Rose simply because he's a point guard that has size and athletic ability and he's special,'' Bilas said, adding it would be difficult to secure an impact point guard through free agency.

And if Miami picks third or fourth, Bilas said he ''probably'' would take Arizona point guard Jerryd Bayless or Indiana shooting guard Eric Gordon, though several NBA personnel people said Stanford center Brook Lopez would make sense at No. 3.

Southern California shooting guard O.J. Mayo ''has been very impressive, but I still think Bayless is probably long-term a better player,'' Bilas said. ``Bayless is not a traditional point guard, but he can play the point.''
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So basically you mean it'll be like last year? Man I wish I could watch it anyway but I'll be at skool.. I'll prob jump outta class round then I guess..

Hey BG, wat time/date is the Lottery in Sydney, do you kno?
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Bayless is the best point guard in this draft. He is better than Derrick Rose in every single way imaginable. People always point to Rose's athleticism. Since when do point guards need to be athletic? Mark Jackson? John Stockton? Steve Nash? Jason Kidd? I don't see Chris Paul dunking. Besides, if you want athleticism you can probably find the video of Bayless throwing down an alley oop against Arizona State where the top of his head is level with the rim. Kid has springs in his legs.

Bayless shoots better than Rose, he makes better decisions, and his handle is better. One thing that I noticed about Rose is that he can't change hands at full speed. When he is pushing the ball full court on a solo fastbreak and he is forced to change hands he stops his dribble, takes his one or two steps, and tries to finish. He gets stripped in the lane way too often.

I'm not buying the "he will become a good shooter" argument either. I thought everyone understood from Damon Jones and Rafer that Wade needs a point guard who can defend and knock down the three. Rose can't even shoot free throws yet somehow he is going to make NBA 3-pointers against NBA defenders? Travis Best pt. 2.

Bayless will be the best point guard to come out of this draft. Beasley is the safest pick and I expect him to come in and score the ball a lot like an Antwan Jamison. Finally, I think that O.J. Mayo will end up the best player out of this draft class. I expect him to explode in the NBA like Dwyane Wade because he plays an NBA style and will get to the free throw line regularly. If we end up with Mayo or Bayless I won't be crying.

that's a very bold statement....does that mean that if your were the gm of the team with the #1 overall, you would take mayo???
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So basically you mean it'll be like last year? Man I wish I could watch it anyway but I'll be at skool.. I'll prob jump outta class round then I guess..

Hey BG, wat time/date is the Lottery in Sydney, do you kno?
If you're asking what time and date the lottery would be live in Sydney it would be Wednesday, May 21st at 10 AM.
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Wednesday, May 21st at 10 AM.
Next wednesday, 10 AM. Got it, thanks.

Yea I'll have to step outta class for a sec

[Edit] Thats when the lottery starts right? Or when they announce the results? Or is it pretty much all at the same time - do you know how long the lottery runs for?
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Next wednesday, 10 AM. Got it, thanks.

Yea I'll have to step outta class for a sec

[Edit] Thats when the lottery starts right? Or when they announce the results? Or is it pretty much all at the same time - do you know how long the lottery runs for?
They usually draw it out for 20-30 minutes if I remember right
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Is that Skip Bilas?? I'm not the biggest fan of his..He's made a living as a Cowboys hater...anyway, So wait do they know the results before it's aired or do tehy just see them draw the balls and waht not.??
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