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Old 07-03-2009, 10:49 PM   #106 (permalink)
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I disagree. Hedo isn't good enough to make them much better, and he will tie up their cap space for the next few years.
They had to do something this summer because of Bosh. If they didnt do anything and suffered another disappointing season then Bosh was out of there. He may be out of there anyway, but I think this does make them better. How much better? Probably not much. But he gives them another ball handler next to Calderon and another player that can get his own shot.

This does now free up Anthony Parker. I've always liked his game. He's solid defensively, can handle the ball pretty well and can hit the 3 at a really good clip. I'd love it if we could somehow get him.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:11 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

Hedo IMO doesnt make them a significantly good enough team to matter. Plus, the window for them to win with Hedo is probably quite small, even if Bosh re-signed with them. This pretty much seals their fate with Bosh.

And yeah, Parker would be nice.
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:48 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

Toronto won't re-sign Marion now, so the difference between Hedo and Shawn is their improvement, which doesn't make them a playoff team in my opinion.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:49 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

They still get better. He's an upgrade over Marion and gives them a legit perimeter threat. Hedo and Bosh running that pick and roll is gonna be nasty. I say they are a playoff team now.
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They still get better. He's an upgrade over Marion and gives them a legit perimeter threat. Hedo and Bosh running that pick and roll is gonna be nasty. I say they are a playoff team now.
Yeah, but Hedo just got done with the finals and he is still on vacation. They're going to hammer out his contract and he probably won't be in for camp until it's mandatory. He and Bosh are basically going to be figuring out how to play together during the season. I love Hedo to death but he is more of a playoff piece at this point in his career and not a regular season difference. I think Toronto will miss the playoffs again. Even New Jersey has more talent at this point.
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

Not sure Hedo can play that prominent of a role over the course of a season and playoffs. In Orlando he had a lot of help with the support and spacing of Dwight, Rashard, and the other perimeter players. Even in these last Playoffs he started to show some glaring weakpoints in his game. When he's on, he's deadly, but I dont see him as one of a successful one-two punch.
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

Bibby is about to sign a 3yr deal with the Hawks.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:26 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Flip Murray is def. available then. Id take him.
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

I really hope we just don't sit on our hands and make no moves. I don't think we will, but who knows. I am talking something, I am talking about just adding a piece... Remember last offseason and how we made all those smart signings like Jones, Jamaal, Diawara, etc? We need another smart signing or two like that too make this offseason a success. Bringing in a veteran backup like Anthony Parker would be very nice. Healthy play from JO and James Jones plus another player on the level of a Parker, Dahntay Jones, or Flip Murray would be enough to secure homecourt in the playoffs, and that is all you need to maybe make a run.
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

Is Zaza still out there? He'd be a great backup center. It would mean the definate end of Jamaal Magloire here, but he would be fun to watch here.
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I really hope we just don't sit on our hands and make no moves. I don't think we will, but who knows. I am talking something, I am talking about just adding a piece... Remember last offseason and how we made all those smart signings like Jones, Jamaal, Diawara, etc? We need another smart signing or two like that too make this offseason a success. Bringing in a veteran backup like Anthony Parker would be very nice. Healthy play from JO and James Jones plus another player on the level of a Parker, Dahntay Jones, or Flip Murray would be enough to secure homecourt in the playoffs, and that is all you need to maybe make a run.
Success?

We're a 5-8 seed that will get dropped in the 1st round.

The only thing that will change that is a major trade.
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Yeah, but Hedo just got done with the finals and he is still on vacation. They're going to hammer out his contract and he probably won't be in for camp until it's mandatory. He and Bosh are basically going to be figuring out how to play together during the season. I love Hedo to death but he is more of a playoff piece at this point in his career and not a regular season difference. I think Toronto will miss the playoffs again. Even New Jersey has more talent at this point.
New Jersey? Even without VC? I don't think so.

Toronto will have a very potent offensive squad. Their frontline at times is going to be huge with Hedo, Bosh and Bargiani. Defensively they'll have their problems but they are going to put up some points.
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:34 PM   #118 (permalink)
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

We've shown some interest in Nate Robinson too apparently. Doubt we try and sign him but it seems obvious we're looking for some scoring punch off the bench.
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About New Jersey, I think Devin and Brook can win you more games than Hedo and Bosh. I'll take Alston and Lee and Hayes and Dooling along with Yi and Sean Williams over the rest of the crap on Toronto's roster (minus Calderon who is great).

I would give Nate a max years and max money allowed under the midlevel if I was Riley. If we're signing Amare/Bosh/Boozer next year then Nate can have UD's space in the cap after he comes off next summer.
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Re: The Miami Heat All-Things Offseason Thread

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• Pat Riley called Ben Gordon's agent as soon as free agency began Wednesday, but Miami didn't have the salary-cap space to compete with Detroit's winning bid. . . . The Heat has shown interest in re-signing backup point guard Luther Head, his agent said. . . . Unsure how much Michael Beasley will play at small forward, the Heat has had ''lots of fruitful discussions'' toward re-signing small forward Jamario Moon, agent Joel Bell said.
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