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Old 12-10-2012, 09:53 PM   #1546 (permalink)
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Hardly think Phoenix would go 'you want Gortat? SURE! We'll take Udonis if that's cool?'.
I didnt say Gortat for Haslem...I just want Gortat here and haslem gone.
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What is the protection on that Raptors 2013 1st rounder that OKC owns....?

Petrified of them getting ANOTHER young stud now
Top 3 protected
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:18 PM   #1548 (permalink)
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So OKC will have it if it's a pick #4 and out.

Fark - that's golden for them.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:58 PM   #1549 (permalink)
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I didnt say Gortat for Haslem...I just want Gortat here and haslem gone.
How do we get Gortat?

We give them Pittman?
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:52 AM   #1550 (permalink)
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Re: '12 All things Heat thread

No. Probably a pick or two, and...who knows who, if they'd even want a player. That's probably not even realistic, actually.

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The numbers indicate that he's hurting more than helping. For the season, there is – according to stats provided by the NBA - a 20.8-point swing toward the negative on average when Beasley is on the floor compared to when he's not (a negative-14.4 plus-minus rating with him on the floor and a plus-6.4 rating with him off it). He's clearly not helping them on the defensive end, either, as the team's defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) is 96.2 when he's on the bench and 114.9 when he's on the court.

Making matters worse, the numbers say that the Suns are better as a offensively when he isn't playing. With Beasley on the floor, their offensive rating (points per 100 possessions) is 100.1 while it's 101.5 with him on the bench.
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Re: '12 All things Heat thread

That was a weird signing to begin with. Dont know who would take on that contract now.
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Yup. I thought he'd have trouble getting signed, let alone something over the minimum.

Random Thought: When LeBron's career is over, John Hollinger should change "Player Efficiency Rating (PER)" to "LeBron James Rating (LJR)." He tops the list in his sleep. It's like it was made for his game.
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Re: '12 All things Heat thread

Just looking at the contracts. Mario has a team option next year at $4 million. He very likely wont be traded, but he along with that Sixers pick are probably our best tradeable assets.

Its too bad that Riles was in such a giving mood the summer of 2010. Could have at least made the final year of UD and Joel's contracts a team option instead of a player option. Would have made them much better trade chips.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:06 AM   #1554 (permalink)
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Re: '12 All things Heat thread

The thing I don't like about Gortat is he's a transient possession. He's got one year left on his deal after this one, and then because of the way the salary cap is structured we will lose him because we can't match opposing team offers. The only way we can re-sign him after a year is if he is a complete bust and awful player and nobody else in the league wants him.

Would rather keep and use Philly's pick than trade it. Imagine the position we would be in today if we never traded that Raptors pick which is going to be a lottery pick some day. Riley has always been bad with the draft (Kaman over Wade?), it's his one fault.
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I was sarcastic for Pittman for Gortat.......
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Re: '12 All things Heat thread

Like the guys said, Mario and that Philly 1st are really our only trade assets. Guys like Miller, Haslem and Joel are worth more to us than other teams in all likelihood - and we'd get nothing for them.

Like W2 said though - wish those Joel and UD contracts were team options, but we likely would've lost them otherwise.
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Anyone slightly concerned that CB is getting worn down playing Center?

Last 5 have been very pedestrian: 13 and 7 on 44%.

Just a bad shooting patch?
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In related news, after a very poor November, DWade is rounding into form in December.

Last 5:

24.6 ppg
2.4 rpg
3.4 apg
0.8 spg
2.2 tpg
33.4 mpg

59.7% fg
42.9% 3fg
82.4% ft


Looks like rumours of his demise may have been exaggerated.

Insteresting to note that lack of steals and blocks for Dwyane so far this season though, usually a staple of his game. He's at 0.6 and 1.1 blocks and steals per game respectively, career wise he averages 1 block and 1.6 steals.

Looking at his shot attempts also, he's down to 15.3 per game on average this season. That's the lowest since his rookie year.
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Anyone slightly concerned that CB is getting worn down playing Center?

Last 5 have been very pedestrian: 13 and 7 on 44%.

Just a bad shooting patch?
Not surprised.

Expected.
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