'13 All things Heat thread

[Jace]

Couple of notes: 1) Pretty sure we have no MLE money. Not sure what we'll have, but it'll likely be quite low. 2) Just in case anyone isn't aware, we can't trade the draft pick until after its selected, not sure how long after. Though I'm sure Pat isn't opposed to working under the table.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by doctordrizzay

I dont even have to explain why i would want Al Jefferson over Darko and Asik....his career speaks for itself. a solid 20 and 10 guy who plays the inside, unlike bosh.

Yeah, you want to trade Bosh for Al Jefferson. That's a lateral move at best. Jefferson is a career loser. Every team he leaves gets better. 20 and 10? How many stats has he accumulated in the playoffs? ZERO. Ask any fan on this board whose team he has played on. The guy is a career loser, blackhole, and matador defender. 20 and 10? Bosh averaged 24 and 11. I don't give a **** about box scores. I warned everyone on this board about Bosh, but at least he is intelligent, we have made the finals with him, and he's somewhat proven. Why risk that on a lateral move at best?

This team needs a center. Darko and Asik are good pieces.

[Dee-Zy]

Agreed that Bosh for Big Al isn't the solution.

[Jace]

I've been wanting Darko for a few seasons now.

[Wade2Bosh]

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Still no Mike Miller for the Heat, but he is close to returning.

Made of ****ing glass.

[tone wone]

Am I the only one who starting to loathe this Defense? What started out as a swarming chaotic style whose purpose was to force mistakes and hurried possessions has now been scouted, and routinely picked apart.

They get so overextended now just aimlessly chasing the ball.

[BlackNRed]

Originally Posted by Adam

Edit: I didn't even realize Darko averaged 9 points a game last year in 25 mins with Luke Ridnour running the show. With LeBron and Wade he can easily get us 10 a game. I want that trade to happen even more now.

Do we really need a C who can score points? I mean it would be nice if he could catch and finish point blank shots. But other than that just give me a guy who gets up to get tough physical rebounds every possession. As opposed to Bosh who just hopes the ball bounces directly to his soft ass.

[Wade2Bosh]

[Wade2Bosh]

Bulls lose two games in a row

OKC loses to Memphis.

Heat can gain a game back on them tomorrow night.

[Jace]

Christ. I just hate looking at Bosh's face and the sound of his voice right now.

Originally Posted by tone wone

Am I the only one who starting to loathe this Defense? What started out as a swarming chaotic style whose purpose was to force mistakes and hurried possessions has now been scouted, and routinely picked apart.

They get so overextended now just aimlessly chasing the ball.

I think (hope) they just have gotten really complacent in executing it. It takes a lot of focus and effort, and not being sharp leads to overextension, as you said. I kind of hate it too, even with Pat it led to way too many wide-open 3s for my liking; 3s so open no one even tries to get over to the shooter while he waits to wind up because no one is even near enough to claim him as their man and likely doesn't want to be seen as having missed their assignment (Heatbeaters mentioned a lot of intersquad bickering in Boston). Sure good scouting can hurt it big time, but I believe with the personnel and some of the benefits of the schemes it can stop any offense when executed right. We haven't seen it executed correctly for even half a game this season. Its gotten worlds worse recently, with them allowing a lay up line for opposing bigs vs. Indy, OKC, and Boston. I hope its not an either or matter (open threes or open layups), but I'm still confident if they communicate well and hustle intelligently (no overextension, Bosh not overhedging on PnRs, limiting unnecessary traps/doubles) it can shut teams down. We'll see.

But yeah, I loathe the shit out of this defense most of the time. I'd almost rather we abandon it midseason and adopt something simpler. The two teams prior to the Big 3 needed a gamble defense to put themselves in position to compete with the best, I think its possible with the singular defensive ability we have to defend teams well without tricky schemes. I hate how much we "blue" ballhandlers to the baseline. I understand a lot of teams do it, but its more situational usually. So often I see a driver gladly take the lane the defender is forcing him into, only for the second line to have to rotate to stop him going baseline or turning the corner from the elbow, creating a wide open look under the basket for a big. Its sad and discouraging Spo doesn't adjust. I don't watch the Bulls closely enough to be familiar with their principals, but I'd have to think whatever system Thibodeau is using over there would be more reliable. It could be nearly identical, as he did fall off the Riley tree.

Originally Posted by Wade2Bosh

Bulls lose two games in a row

OKC loses to Memphis.

Heat can gain a game back on them tomorrow night.

Imagine if we beat OKC and Boston. Or even just Boston. Such dogshit.

[Job]

Thibs was really upset after the game. Thibs said "we can't let go of the rope". After the game a reporter told Boozer that Thibs said that the team let go of the rope. Reporter asked Boozer if he thinks the Bulls let go of the rope. Kendall Gil was asked if he thinks the Bulls let go of the rope. Sports Radio in Chicago is talking about the Bulls letting go of the rope. I heard this somewear before?

[Wade2Bosh]

Spo-isms taking the country over, one city at a time

[doctordrizzay]

Originally Posted by Job

Thibs was really upset after the game. Thibs said "we can't let go of the rope". After the game a reporter told Boozer that Thibs said that the team let go of the rope. Reporter asked Boozer if he thinks the Bulls let go of the rope. Kendall Gil was asked if he thinks the Bulls let go of the rope. Sports Radio in Chicago is talking about the Bulls letting go of the rope. I heard this somewear before?

A porno?

[Wade County]

Dammit, I came in here specifically to post that Thibs quote!

[BlackNRed]

In a perfect world we'd trade Bosh for a PG like Devin Harris, and add a big C who can rebound the ball in traffic consistently.

Harris/Wade/Lebron/Haslem/Asik? I'll take it.