Job

Lebron 4th quarter stats past 11 games:

1-8 against vs orlando .....lost
1-3 against vs chicago...lost
1-4 against vs sixers .... win
0-2 against vs orlando....win
1-3 against vs suns ....win
0-3 against vs pistons ....win
2-4 against vs thunder....lost
1-3 against vs pacers....lost
2-4 against vs mavericks...win
0-0 against vs raptors....win
1-2 against vs celtics....lost

doctordrizzay

You do realize spo sits him for the first 7min over every 4th quarter

~Styles~

They're still horrendous numbers though for a player of his calibre.

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Dee-Zy

I guess KG just really has Bosh's number.

I forgot how well Bosh played vs Boston last year in the Playoffs?

Didn't he stink it up in the first few games as well?

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Ben

So? Doesn't mean he should be playing like garbage when he is in the game.

Smithian

More UD/CB lineups!

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doctordrizzay

Should i bring up Kobe Bryants stats? Kobe was 3-21 and missed his first 15 shots of the game against a last place team. He's missed 18 shots or more 5 times this season...and is shoot a lowly 39% from the field for the season. Lebron is shooting 53%. So please tell me again who's playing garbage when they are in the game? hmmmm not to hard. Ill give you a hit its not the guy who's beating Jordan's PER record.

R-Star

So it's ok because you hand picked a game where Kobe played bad?

Oh ok. Solid, solid post.

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Jace

In fairness, he mentioned a good stat about the 18+ missed shots in 5 games, as well as Kobe's deplorable FG%. Hardly cherry-picking one game. But I agree LeBron needs to be better in the latter portions of games and take over throughout the game when he needs to.

He played very well against Boston.

I'm still hung up on the "against vs." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??

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I just don't see the point is all. Someone brought up Lebrons stats in the 4th, so him bringing up Kobe is somehow a valid excuse for Lebron?

Lebrons had some well documented struggles in crunch time. Its pretty valid to bring it up.

I keep watching Heat games, and when the Heat are down or its a close game in the 4th I keep thinking "Ok, Lebron is going to step on their throats and end this." and it never happens. Its crazy because its Lebron. You just assume he or Wade are going to go into superstar mode and end games. But at least when I'm watching, it never happens.

That's the issue I see with the Heat. If Lebron and Wade still acted in Alpha mode like they did when they had their own teams, the league wouldn't stand a chance. Its a mental issue. If they aren't over it by now, I'm not sure they ever will be. But man if they do, its going to be a pretty boring time for people who don't cheer for Miami.

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Ben

Kobe has nothing to do with LeBron being poor. If Kobe's poor, great. But I'd still rather our players were good when it matters, since y'know, that's more relevant to the Miami Heat. doctordrizzay seems to have a weird hatred of Kobe and an even weirder obsession with LeBron.

Job

Wade, Lebron won't risk threading a quick pass to Bosh anymore. Lebron, Wade are so talented when they are on the move passing and receiving. The style of play combined with athleticism excludes Bosh from being involved. This makes Bosh into a very good but very overpaid role player.
My opinion is that you could be wasting the potential for a dynasty because of the lack of really good role players that can't be added. Would Lebron even care if the Heat got rid of Bosh?

Jace

They're great in the open court, but you can't run down the floor every possession. Bosh is the perfect catalyst for our half court when his game is on, but those moments have been coming fewer and farther between as this season goes on. Think about the game vs. LAL.

Fair enough, I actually was going to say that too but just jumped to my penultimate point about LeBron. Probably would've been easier if you just said that instead of deriding him for bringing up one Kobe game when he clearly alluded to five, and ultimately his whole season.

As far as the rest of your post, can't agree more on the whole. There have however, both this year, last year, and in the playoffs, been games where not just one, but both, have looked like their old alpha dog selves, the most memorable being when it looked like the Heat would lose game 5 of the ECF but somehow clamped down on D and had Wade and LeBron each hit huge jumpers (including 3s!) that brought them back, ending in a game-winning pull up J by LeBron. Has it been every close game? No. Most close games? Nope. Close to half of them? Likely not. But its happened enough times that I'm not going to freak out and say its impossible or unlikely to happen again. Yes, LeBron shit the bed in the Finals, and after having huge games in the two previous series I think a lot of us are still scratching our heads trying to figure out exactly what happened there, but these are still big-time players who've had several big-time performances in the playoffs. The way they've played lately has inspired little confidence, but we as Heat fans felt just as worried last year. (Note: Even though I'm not necessarily more "worried" than I was during the Heat's god-awful 5-game losing streak last year, this team does piss me off more because of the length of time they've now been together, coupled with all of the rhetoric we've heard from everywhere about how much better, deeper, angrier, and more ready they are now. It doesn't look that way at the moment, but the post-season is a different animal.)

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