Heat 2012 Off-Season Thread

[R-Star]

So... you guys are putting this on the coach?

Spo didn't make Wade play like shit. He didn't make Lebron go cold either.

[Smithian]

Originally Posted by R-Star

So... you guys are putting this on the coach?

Spo didn't make Wade play like shit. He didn't make Lebron go cold either.

Blame isn't a zero sum game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smithian

No comparison whatsoever. These are professionals. Acting like that is uncalled for. If you're angry take care of it behind closed doors.

Seeing the Heat actually trade for my man crush then trade him? Heart breaking. Patrick Beverley = Gone but never forgotten.... (Russia Can't Be Fun)

As far as Spoelstra and Wade? I'm not sure on Spo any more, but I will say I just don't want Wade back at this moment. I'll probably wake up and think, "It's Dwyane Wade, calm down Smithian." Right now? Move him.

We have a ridiculous record without Wade. LeBron James took Cleveland on multiple awesome runs with tons of trash players. Spoelstra is at least as good if not better than Mike Brown. Tomorrow if Wade is gone you already have Bosh who is better than anyone who ever played with LeBron pre-Heat. He averaged 20 and 10, was a 5-time All-Star, and was an Olympian with the Raptors. He has struggled as a third option but when the second option looks like a complete beast. Also, the rest of the roster has lots of solid veterans like Shattier and Haslem. Also, if you trade Wade to some NBA backwater like Toronto or Sacramento then you get at least one or two relatively good pieces, again better than anything than LeBron had in Cleveland. A team built around LeBron and Bosh contends for an NBA championship.

My problem tonight isn't just the loss but Wade getting in a COACH'S face. I don't care who the coach is, that can't happen infront of cameras.

Bosh is a 220 pound pussy with the physique of Christian Bale in The Machinist. He got injured playing in the paint against Roy Hibbert. He frequently grabs less than 3 rebounds a game. When did he ever average 10 rebounds on the Heat despite us needing him and giving him the opportunity to?

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

Bosh is a 220 pound pussy with the physique of Christian Bale in The Machinist. He got injured playing in the paint against Roy Hibbert. He frequently grabs less than 3 rebounds a game. When did he ever average 10 rebounds on the Heat despite us needing him and giving him the opportunity to?

He shouldn't be in the paint with Roy Hibbert. He should be in the paint with David West.

That's Pat Rileys problem for making a flawed team. Not Bosh's for having to play out of position. He's a 4. Not a 5.

[PoetLaureate]

Losing a game sucks but this Wade thing just has me totally disheartened. I wanted to deny it and was hoping it didn't get to this point but man, he is one extremely unlikeable dude on the court and it's been like slow poison to this team all year. I'm at least glad it's out in the open and reporters have been asking Spo about his incessant whining and lazy play after supposed non-calls.

[Ballscientist]

Sign Steve Nash to be the team offensive leader, then sign Greg Oden to be team defensive leader.

[James Worthy]

Originally Posted by myst

You guys are overreacting big time. If we win game 4 it's a 3 game series with 2 of the games in Miami. I understand being upset, but talk about overreacting.

If the Heat were a team with "cojones" and a solid back-up center i would agree with your point of view, unfortunately they don't have both and its a wrap. Feel free to make a thread chiding me and other doubters if i'm/we're wrong.

[James Worthy]

Originally Posted by Ballscientist

Sign Steve Nash to be the team offensive leader, then sign Greg Oden to be team defensive leader.

Yes, the heat need a solid back-up/ reliable scorer like Nash and a solid big man but those two cats are too injury prone for my liking.

[Ben]

I refuse to talk about next season as if no-one has ever come back from 2-1 down before smh

[RollWithEm]

Originally Posted by James Worthy

Yes, the heat need a solid back-up/ reliable scorer like Nash ...too injury prone for my liking.

Nash... a back-up? Injury prone? He hasn't missed more than 7 games in a season in the last 11 years. He hasn't been a back-up since the year before that.

[James Worthy]

Originally Posted by RollWithEm

Nash... a back-up? Injury prone? He hasn't missed more than 7 games in a season in the last 11 years. He hasn't been a back-up since the year before that.

you're right , my bad, he still a geezer though

[Smithian]

Originally Posted by Adam

Bosh is a 220 pound pussy with the physique of Christian Bale in The Machinist. He got injured playing in the paint against Roy Hibbert. He frequently grabs less than 3 rebounds a game. When did he ever average 10 rebounds on the Heat despite us needing him and giving him the opportunity to?

His numbers blow up as a second option.

I see your feelings on Hibbert haven't changed...

Originally Posted by Dee-Zy

I would love to have Hibbert here. I still think he is going to emerge as one of the best Cs in the league.

Originally Posted by Smithian

I would do anything for a 7'2 center with a complete game...
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Hibbert would be perfect for our halfcourt scheme. He is a very good passer, takes up a lot of room, sets hard screen, and has shown serious back to basket potential at times when the Pacers took time to slow it down and toss it inside to him. On defense he blocks some shots and tries hard.

Originally Posted by Adam

Hibbert sucks. Not to be a jerk, but the first time in 7 years that we get cap space and you guys are talking about scrubs like Roy Hibbert and Arroyo. Let's focus on talented basketball players.

Originally Posted by Adam

Please don't act like I don't know who Roy Hibbert is. I've seen him play since his first year of college. He's not a starter anywhere and probably not even a backup on a good team

[Jamel Irief]

Adam would rather have deandre jordan.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smithian

His numbers blow up as a second option.

I see your feelings on Hibbert haven't changed...

He's no Jarvis Varnado, I'll give you that.

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Adam would rather have deandre jordan.

Yes, I would because he's better.

[doctordrizzay]

I wish Wade wasnt the face of the franchise, because we can get alot if we trade him. Dwight Howard, I don't care if he's a douche...He can rebound and defend better than anyone in the paint.

Dwight controls the paint, Bosh pulls out the opposing team's Big man defenders because of his mid range game. And Lebron is Lebron. We would be so ruthless on defense and offense.