Heat 2012 Off-Season Thread

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Adam

Except I never hyped any of those players. I gave my opinion of their skills and I was right in each case it turns out.

You called all 3 of them elite. That is wrong. You were wrong.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

You called all 3 of them elite. That is wrong. You were wrong.

That's your opinion. You're entitled to be wrong.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Adam

That's your opinion. You're entitled to be wrong.

It's the opinion of all rational people and not stubborn people who can't admit when they make a bad assessment.

You honestly think that elite starting front court can lead a team to the playoffs if they had an average backcourt?

Hopefully that franchise big man Tiago Splitter can lead the Spurs back, though it's hard to do when going against an elite center like Deandre Jordan.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

It's the opinion of all rational people and not stubborn people who can't admit when they make a bad assessment.

You honestly think that elite starting front court can lead a team to the playoffs if they had an average backcourt?

Hopefully that franchise big man Tiago Splitter can lead the Spurs back, though it's hard to do when going against an elite center like Deandre Jordan.

Post quotes that you want me to respond to or continue to have an argument with yourself.

[Jamel Irief]

I know you and I'm guessing it's not worth my time. I'll do splitter for now and see if it's worth it.

The Spurs just added a franchise big man. As much as you dismiss Oden, he's an elite player.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Tiago Splitter who was in that draft was a million times better than Noah. Why don't you use the search function and find my comments from that draft night where I said Noah shouldn't have been drafted in any round let alone the first.

I'm guessing you still stand by your assessment that Noah would be undrafted as well?

[Knick Killer]

Originally Posted by Jace

If you watched the game you should have an idea why Heat fans are uneasy right now.

I watched the game and yes you guys looked awful but I highly doubt Dwyane Wade will put up another 5 point, 5 turnover performance. Should be a much closer game 4.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

I know you and I'm guessing it's not worth my time. I'll do splitter for now and see if it's worth it.





I'm guessing you still stand by your assessment that Noah would be undrafted as well?

No, I was wrong about Noah. I admitted that once before in fact, fyi, and I also admitted I was wrong about Rose.

That post about Splitter in context was me replying to somebody saying the Spurs and the West had gotten worse and I told them the Spurs had improved with the addition of Splitter. I would say I was correct there. I don't think he's a franchise big man anymore, and have never once called him one since then. How do I hype him as you claimed? Please post the others too. Don't mention your time when you brought the matter up. Post the Batum one first if you would. I anxiously want to see if it's even possible for you to warp that one.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Adam

Except I never hyped any of those players. I gave my opinion of their skills and I was right in each case it turns out.

Was said after I wrote about these three.

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

A starting frontline of nic batum, tiago splitter and deandre is elite to him.

Then later you write.

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't think he's a franchise big man anymore, and have never once called him one since then.

You said you weren't wrong about Splitter when you called him an elite franchise big man? Ok.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Was said after I wrote about these three.



Then later you write.



You said you weren't wrong about Splitter when you called him an elite franchise big man? Ok.

Where did I call him elite? Quote me directly. I said the Spurs added a franchise big man and improved during the offseason. That was the case. They added the Spanish League MVP. It would be no different than people saying the 76ers added a franchise big man in Elton Brand when they signed him. It's more an observation than anything. You act as if I'm slobbering all over him during the season analyzing his play and providing some gross hyperbole. Where's the hype you talked about? More posts on the Splitter subject by me please. I want to see them.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by AirJay

We have watched this team all year. I am fairly sure that barring Lebron turning in an unexpected 40-50 point game in game 4 that they will lose the series. They have no viable options for adjustment.



I agree with all of this but in the end we are picking nits. Could he improve certain things? Sure he could. But he didn't. That's why he is on that 2nd-3rd tier of great players all-time.

He paced himself in 2010 because he knew it didn't matter. We all did. But if you think he wasn't competitive then you didn't watch the games that year.

Didn't say he wasn't competitive, but clearly less competitive.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

Except I never hyped any of those players. I gave my opinion of their skills and I was right in each case it turns out.

..... but you think DeAndre Jordan is better than Roy Hibbert?

[myst]

You guys are embarrassing yourselves. Everybody demanding to trade Wade after one terrible game is a joke. We watched a 15-67 season and two years of no moves in free agency to see this come together. You bail at the first time things aren't looking amazing? For shame.

[doctordrizzay]

Roy Hibbert is alot better than Jordan, but Jordan can become a higher end C one day. He's like a smart Javale Mcgee.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by doctordrizzay

Roy Hibbert is alot better than Jordan, but Jordan can become a higher end C one day. He's like a smart Javale Mcgee.

Are we going to talk about how this hasn't turned out to be a sweep and the easiest series for the Heat? Or are we just going to pretend you didn't say that?

[Dee-Zy]

Thanks for quoting me.

I have been a fan of Hibbert since his days in Georgetown. I wanted the Raps or Heat to draft him but with the 2nd pick, I didn't think Heat were going to get him. I was glad to see Raps draft him, he was the C they needed but saw that he was traded on draft day.

Many people thought that he would barely be a starter in the league but always pointed to the fact that big men takes longer to develop. Dude is legit. I was actually rooting for him when he was going up against Oden. I always preferred Hibbert to Oden.