How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**ChrisWoj** · 06-11-2012, 01:43 PM

Chris Bosh had a great night during game 7. 8/10, punishing Boston from all over the floor for leaving him open to shoot. He also pulled in 8 boards. And it seems like most sports websites were, appropriately, giving him kudos. No problem with that. Great game, efficient scoring.

But this is a guy that, in his last year in Toronto, went OVER 30 points something like 12-13 times in 60 games played. How many times has he done that in Miami? He averaged 11 boards his last year in Toronto. He had double digit rebounds 4 times in a month only once this year.

All of this talk about Bosh arriving as a player in Miami's gameplan with an 8 of 10 night, for 19/8, seems excessive for a guy that went 24/10.8 and clearly was once capable of really dominating an NBA floor offensively.

**Sir Patchwork** · 06-11-2012, 02:03 PM

I don't think expectations have dropped. People just understand that as a 3rd option, your scoring numbers aren't going to speak very loud. 18ppg from your 3rd option is outstanding, but his value will lie in being ready to make the best of his opportunities when he does get them. That, and just the difference in Miami's dynamic with him in the lineup, is the reason for the recent praise, imo.

**Ballscientist** · 06-11-2012, 02:09 PM

Questions:

Is Bosh the top 10 player in the nba this season?

Is Bosh the top 15 player in the nba this season?

PauloCatarino · 06-11-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Patchwork

I don't think expectations have dropped. People just understand that as a 3rd option, your scoring numbers aren't going to speak very loud. 18ppg from your 3rd option is outstanding, but his value will lie in being ready to make the best of his opportunities when he does get them. That, and just the difference in Miami's dynamic with him in the lineup, is the reason for the recent praise, imo.

That and the fact that LikeaBosh is the only Superfiend who can knock down a clutch jumper with consistency.

seifer0406 · 06-11-2012, 03:42 PM

Bosh gets injured, the Heat struggles. Bosh comes back, Heat wins.

I don't know about you but he seems pretty damn important to the Heat to me.

And no, anyone who thought Bosh would put up the same numbers that he put up in Toronto is an idiot.

Dee-Zy · 06-11-2012, 08:58 PM

I thought that all 3 would average 20ppg though or that bosh would avg even more rebounds like 12rpg because he would focus more on defense and rebounding with wade and bron leading the offense.

Wrong on both counts.

MemphisX · 06-12-2012, 12:07 AM

Bosh is playing the same role James Worthy played during Showtime. Anyone with eyes can see he could do more if needed and he does most times the opportunity. Fans want to kill players who play a role for a team to win and also kill players who go for self despite what would be best for the team.

If Bosh is healthy the Heat beat the Pacers and Cs in 5.

**Dre** · 06-12-2012, 12:14 AM

Bosh haters are retarded. I get so upset every time I hear the rapper shout out LeBron and Wade but not him

**Eternal** · 06-12-2012, 12:31 AM

Bosh is more important then Wade, so I never could understand why it was always "Lebron and Wade". I view Wade as a bonus if he's going good for the game. Bosh is very effective even if he isn't shooting that great for the day, just by his presence spacing the floor and his size. If Wade is not shooting well or is off, he's useless almost IMO.

**Ben** · 06-12-2012, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dee-Zy

I thought that all 3 would average 20ppg though or that bosh would avg even more rebounds like 12rpg because he would focus more on defense and rebounding with wade and bron leading the offense.

Wrong on both counts.

How many teams in history have had three 20PPG scorers?

hobojoe · 06-12-2012, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben

How many teams in history have had three 20PPG scorers?

Those early 80s Nuggets teams with English, Issel, Vandeweghe and Thompson had to have done it. Then again, they scored and allowed 120+ points a game so it's not exactly comparable.

**Ben** · 06-12-2012, 04:58 AM

And that proves my point. 30 years ago in a high scoring team it happened. It'd be great for CB to average 20+, but it's unrealistic.

**Dornado** · 06-12-2012, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben

How many teams in history have had three 20PPG scorers?

I know the Mullin/Hardaway/Richmond Warriors did it in 90-91.... that's another team that played at a high pace, 116 ppg. West/Baylor/Chamberlain did it too back in the day.

edit to add: The 07-08 Warriors had Baron Davis, Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson all over 20 ppg.

**Wade County** · 06-12-2012, 05:49 AM

The playoffs are over sensitive to any new bit of information out there. The fact that Bosh had a breakout game (considering his previous 2 games were just coming back from injury) in game 7 and got us over the line obviously has people crediting him again.

He had missed the past 2 rounds almost in their entirety, so to get him back and contributing is great.

Dee-Zy · 06-12-2012, 12:12 PM

How many teams in NBA history have had the pairing of 2 superstars and a perennial all star?

And I did remember a team in the last 5 years that had 3 20ppg players (I think it was suns or golden state). I didn't expect Miami to play such a slow pace in the summer of 2010.

06-11-2012, 01:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
ChrisWoj Restore the Roar Join Date: May 2005 Location: Goshen, Indiana Age: 28 Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 3089125	How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? Chris Bosh had a great night during game 7. 8/10, punishing Boston from all over the floor for leaving him open to shoot. He also pulled in 8 boards. And it seems like most sports websites were, appropriately, giving him kudos. No problem with that. Great game, efficient scoring. But this is a guy that, in his last year in Toronto, went OVER 30 points something like 12-13 times in 60 games played. How many times has he done that in Miami? He averaged 11 boards his last year in Toronto. He had double digit rebounds 4 times in a month only once this year. All of this talk about Bosh arriving as a player in Miami's gameplan with an 8 of 10 night, for 19/8, seems excessive for a guy that went 24/10.8 and clearly was once capable of really dominating an NBA floor offensively. __________________ DETROIT! Lets Restore the Roar! We can all to that. check.the.detroit.tigers.forum THE DETROIT TIGERS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS - ChrisWoj [05.30.06] - Midnight_Marauder [05.31.06] - Ghost [05.31.06] - Sixerfanforlife [06.05.06] - Ron Mexico [07.02.06] - Dissonance19 [07.24.06] - bball2223 [08.09.06] OMG MY SIG IS OBSOLETE!

06-11-2012, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sir Patchwork MVP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 28 Posts: 17,127 Rep Power: 13211371	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? I don't think expectations have dropped. People just understand that as a 3rd option, your scoring numbers aren't going to speak very loud. 18ppg from your 3rd option is outstanding, but his value will lie in being ready to make the best of his opportunities when he does get them. That, and just the difference in Miami's dynamic with him in the lineup, is the reason for the recent praise, imo.

06-11-2012, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
seifer0406 Cat Launcher Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Age: 30 Posts: 8,526 Rep Power: 16655205	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? Bosh gets injured, the Heat struggles. Bosh comes back, Heat wins. I don't know about you but he seems pretty damn important to the Heat to me. And no, anyone who thought Bosh would put up the same numbers that he put up in Toronto is an idiot. __________________ The Raptors Young Onez

06-11-2012, 08:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dee-Zy Legend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: mtl Posts: 11,094 Rep Power: 5792515	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? I thought that all 3 would average 20ppg though or that bosh would avg even more rebounds like 12rpg because he would focus more on defense and rebounding with wade and bron leading the offense. Wrong on both counts. __________________ Social Media Marketing - NBA Players on Twitter Champions.

06-12-2012, 12:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
MemphisX Welcome to the Grindhouse! Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 18 Posts: 14,900 Rep Power: 8161675	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? Bosh is playing the same role James Worthy played during Showtime. Anyone with eyes can see he could do more if needed and he does most times the opportunity. Fans want to kill players who play a role for a team to win and also kill players who go for self despite what would be best for the team. If Bosh is healthy the Heat beat the Pacers and Cs in 5. __________________ Los Angeles Clippers HQ KVBL L.A. Clippers Team Page 2016 Western Conference Finalist 2017 Western Conference Finalist 2027 KVBL Finalist 2028 KVBL Champions PG Anibal Levrino \| SG DJ Alexander \| SF Sky Johnson \| PF Henry Torre \| C Frank Weiland(MVP) \| 6th Man Nikolai Koznyshev 2018 FRSL Champion L.A. Clippers

06-12-2012, 12:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dre do better Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 41,325 Rep Power: 21474887	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? Bosh haters are retarded. I get so upset every time I hear the rapper shout out LeBron and Wade but not him

06-12-2012, 12:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Eternal Times Like These Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Age: 28 Posts: 5,658 Rep Power: 2695710	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? Bosh is more important then Wade, so I never could understand why it was always "Lebron and Wade". I view Wade as a bonus if he's going good for the game. Bosh is very effective even if he isn't shooting that great for the day, just by his presence spacing the floor and his size. If Wade is not shooting well or is off, he's useless almost IMO.

06-12-2012, 04:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ben Lifetime Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: England Age: 20 Posts: 20,766 Rep Power: 3984906	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? And that proves my point. 30 years ago in a high scoring team it happened. It'd be great for CB to average 20+, but it's unrealistic. __________________ BBBL Portland Trailblazers GM

06-12-2012, 05:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Wade County 2012 NBA Champions! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 25 Posts: 23,638 Rep Power: 2796527	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? The playoffs are over sensitive to any new bit of information out there. The fact that Bosh had a breakout game (considering his previous 2 games were just coming back from injury) in game 7 and got us over the line obviously has people crediting him again. He had missed the past 2 rounds almost in their entirety, so to get him back and contributing is great. __________________ Formerly BG44 & MB30

06-12-2012, 12:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dee-Zy Legend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: mtl Posts: 11,094 Rep Power: 5792515	Re: How low have expectations for Chris Bosh fallen? How many teams in NBA history have had the pairing of 2 superstars and a perennial all star? And I did remember a team in the last 5 years that had 3 20ppg players (I think it was suns or golden state). I didn't expect Miami to play such a slow pace in the summer of 2010. __________________ Social Media Marketing - NBA Players on Twitter Champions.

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