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Old 08-22-2012, 10:51 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Our style of Defense is what the Lakers kryptonite is, our swarm turnover habby defense is will be way to much for a bunch of thirty year olds, then we got nash and kobe trying to chase down lebron and wade on the fast break. Not going to happen.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:59 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Yup. And again, we beat a team with a major size advantage on us before Bosh even went down, followed by a team who's center was playing as well as anyone. Were the defensive schemes perfect? No. We were all frustrated by the unceasing devotion to front the post, even when Boston figured out a way around it. That won't work consistently against LA, particularly when Nash is on the floor.
Can't compare Hibbert and Dwight though, even on the offensive end.

2 worlds.

Plus Hibbert didn't have a Pau Gasol type of player next to him either. Not sure I agree to 100% here.
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Dude you don't get what I'm saying. I'm not comparing them. I'm saying without our only center we still managed to beat a team with a size advantage. Are Pau/Dwight a lot better? Yes. But if you're going to envision these teams matching up its only fair to assume Bosh will be playing.

Hibbert is closer to Bynum than Howard, offensively, though. Obviously Howard has a crazy physical advantage, but as has been stated, we've mostly been OK against him offensively.
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Dude you don't get what I'm saying. I'm not comparing them. I'm saying without our only center we still managed to beat a team with a size advantage. Are Pau/Dwight a lot better? Yes. But if you're going to envision these teams matching up its only fair to assume Bosh will be playing.

Hibbert is closer to Bynum than Howard, offensively, though. Obviously Howard has a crazy physical advantage, but as has been stated, we've mostly been OK against him offensively.
Bynum's offense is alot better than Howards so I don't about Hibbert being closer to bynum.
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Precisely, I'm saying Hibbert is more of a low-post player like Bynum.
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I'm just saying that it is far fetched to say that we fared ok against Hibbert, ergo we should do ok against LA's frontcourt.
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I'm just saying that it is far fetched to say that we fared ok against Hibbert, ergo we should do ok against LA's frontcourt.
we held him to like 11 points 7 rebounds per game...without bosh
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I'm just saying that it is far fetched to say that we fared ok against Hibbert, ergo we should do ok against LA's frontcourt.
DZ, bro. Why do you keep leaving out the crucial element of my point? We fared OK against Hibbert without the only center we play. I might be crazy, but I feel like we're better at combating size when our only semi-legit C is healthy, no? Not saying it automatically means we'll be "OK" against LA. Just pointing out we're good at making adjustments against size even in the face of adversity (no Bosh.)

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Hahaha, point taken, it's all luv, I'm just afraid of overrating ourselves until we see it.

I see your point!
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Hahaha, point taken, it's all luv, I'm just afraid of overrating ourselves until we see it.

I see your point!
It's more the rest of these guys underrating the Lakers.
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I always like listening to this guy's breakdown:
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I always like listening to this guy's breakdown:
Lol he's say's "it's pretty clear Lakers are favorite to win it all this year"

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I like how he says, 'So Howard's free throw shooting isn't a problem,' and, 'Much is made about Nash's defense but nobody can guard the best point guards anyway.' LOL. And Kobe is suddenly going to play off the ball like he's Reggie Miller or Ray Allen? Kobe aint running loop de loops waiting for off-the-ball screens and running along the baseline for possible passes. Get that shit outta here right now. He hasn't played that way in 15+ years and suddenly he is going to just become a cog in a system?

I see them being the #2 in the West and flourishing because of their supreme individual ability. I'm not expecting some cohesive offensive unit like that video suggests. They're not gonna be some Hoosiers squad running the picket fence and running motion offense with Gasol flaring to the corner.
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I like how he says, 'So Howard's free throw shooting isn't a problem,' and, 'Much is made about Nash's defense but nobody can guard the best point guards anyway.' LOL. And Kobe is suddenly going to play off the ball like he's Reggie Miller or Ray Allen? Kobe aint running loop de loops waiting for off-the-ball screens and running along the baseline for possible passes. Get that shit outta here right now. He hasn't played that way in 15+ years and suddenly he is going to just become a cog in a system?

I see them being the #2 in the West and flourishing because of their supreme individual ability. I'm not expecting some cohesive offensive unit like that video suggests. They're not gonna be some Hoosiers squad running the picket fence and running motion offense with Gasol flaring to the corner.
No. Of course not. Bringing superstars together only works when its Adams player he has a crush on and his favorite team.


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Our style of Defense is what the Lakers kryptonite is, our swarm turnover habby defense is will be way to much for a bunch of thirty year olds, then we got nash and kobe trying to chase down lebron and wade on the fast break. Not going to happen.
How can you say it's not going to happen? None of us have seen the Lakers play as a unit yet, so we have no idea how they will perform. On paper both teams should present nightmare matchups. Heat will have big issues in the paint guarding the Lakers, just like last year, while Lakers will have issues on the perimeter guarding the Heat. It will just come down to who can take advantage the most of the matchup advantages on the floor.

Howard will also help mask Nash's defensive liabilities with clogging the lanes on the back end of the floor. Lakers needed the one thing the Heat struggle against and that's a big man anchoring the defense who is able to move well and clog the lane stopping the drives from Lebron/Wade. You saw it in the Finals against Dallas, Pacers were doing well, but obviously don't have the talent to stay on the level of the Heat for a long period of time in a series.
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