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Smithian · 12-08-2012, 05:40 PM

OR GTFO SPOELSTRA

Adam · 12-08-2012, 05:46 PM

You know Haslem is the reason he isn't played more? As Jace has pointed out in game threads, Haslem hasn't been as good a defender as Joel for a few years now (Joel is basically a bigger, faster, and stronger version) and the one advantage Haslem had, his offense, no longer exists so you might as well be playing Joel.

We're actually a worse offensive team when Haslem is on the floor than when he is off. Also, opposing teams are scoring more when he is on the court.

**Jace** · 12-08-2012, 05:49 PM

YES! THE WHIP!

I can't remember the exact stat, and who it was comparing too, but last year we were a lot better offensively with Joel on the floor than one would think. As long as we can figure out a way to not pass to him on pick and rolls, we can get away with it.

Smithian · 12-08-2012, 05:50 PM

We suck defensively.

Won't win anything come finals time.

We suck.

Smithian · 12-08-2012, 10:14 PM

Bet PacquiKNOCKEDTHEFOUT wishes he had defended against punches instead of focusing just on offense

**Jace** · 12-08-2012, 10:46 PM

Spo must be livid.

**Wade County** · 12-09-2012, 02:28 PM

I'm up for more Joel actually. This team has too much of a malaise about it, Joel always brings energy, if not results.

Just no passes on the Pick and roll. For the love of god...

Smithian · 12-12-2012, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade County

I'm up for more Joel actually. This team has too much of a malaise about it, Joel always brings energy, if not results.

Just no passes on the Pick and roll. For the love of god...

**R-Star** · 12-12-2012, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithian

We suck defensively.

Won't win anything come finals time.

We suck.

I'd still have to think most have you pegged as the favorite this year.

**Jace** · 12-12-2012, 01:46 PM

By a much smaller margin.

BlackNRed · 12-13-2012, 03:07 AM

Yep, Joel should be starting, but unfortunately the keys to the team were held to a moron.

**R-Star** · 12-13-2012, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

By a much smaller margin.

I know Haslem is slow and isn't great, but why are we acting like Joel is a good player?

And he what? Starts at power forward?

This seems like complaining to complain to me.

**Jace** · 12-13-2012, 05:53 PM

I don't know if you meant to quote me there, but while Joel shouldn't start, his contribution to the team is much better. Haslem isn't the defender his reputation says he is anymore, and the fact that he can't rebound in traffic, score amongst the trees, or now even hit his patented 14-footers makes him totally useless.

Joel can't rebound, score (though he's actually better close to the basket than Haslem now), or hit jumpers, but he adds a lot to a struggling defense, and sets great screens.

12-08-2012, 05:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: MORE JOEL YES! THE WHIP! I can't remember the exact stat, and who it was comparing too, but last year we were a lot better offensively with Joel on the floor than one would think. As long as we can figure out a way to not pass to him on pick and rolls, we can get away with it. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

12-08-2012, 10:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: MORE JOEL Spo must be livid. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

12-09-2012, 02:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wade County 2012 NBA Champions! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 25 Posts: 23,481 Rep Power: 2796527	Re: MORE JOEL I'm up for more Joel actually. This team has too much of a malaise about it, Joel always brings energy, if not results. Just no passes on the Pick and roll. For the love of god... __________________ Formerly BG44 & MB30

12-12-2012, 01:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: MORE JOEL By a much smaller margin. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

12-13-2012, 03:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
BlackNRed All-Star Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Treasure Coast Age: 27 Posts: 8,665 Rep Power: 1231884	Re: MORE JOEL Yep, Joel should be starting, but unfortunately the keys to the team were held to a moron. __________________ Ay Wayne, tell em why your grill looks like crushed ice.

12-13-2012, 05:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: MORE JOEL I don't know if you meant to quote me there, but while Joel shouldn't start, his contribution to the team is much better. Haslem isn't the defender his reputation says he is anymore, and the fact that he can't rebound in traffic, score amongst the trees, or now even hit his patented 14-footers makes him totally useless. Joel can't rebound, score (though he's actually better close to the basket than Haslem now), or hit jumpers, but he adds a lot to a struggling defense, and sets great screens. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

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