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<<<D>>> · 10-13-2002, 12:29 PM

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/buck/oct02/86773.asp

TheRifleman · 10-13-2002, 12:58 PM

We shall see this season. If the Hawks get better and make the playoffs, then the Big Dog might be vindicated. We shall see.

c_dog · 10-13-2002, 01:52 PM

Wow, hard to believe Ray said those things about big dog. The Ray I know doesn't trash talk...

Big dog shouldn't take Ray's comments so seriously. He has no proof that Ray actually said those things about him.

And Ray is not soft. He's just conservative and he plays nice. He respects his opponents as much as he respects his team mates.

Samir87 · 10-15-2002, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by c_dog!
Wow, hard to believe Ray said those things about big dog. The Ray I know doesn't trash talk...

Big dog shouldn't take Ray's comments so seriously. He has no proof that Ray actually said those things about him.

And Ray is not soft. He's just conservative and he plays nice. He respects his opponents as much as he respects his team mates.

Heres your proof, from the article D posted, if you actually read it:

Allen served the first volley toward Robinson on the Bucks' media day, blaming "Big Dog" for the team's bad chemistry, for being a ball-hog and for not working hard in practice.

"Me trying to lead Glenn Robinson wasn't going to happen," Allen said that afternoon. "Last year, there was a situation in training camp where Glenn had just had ankle surgery, and he came and practiced in all the practices, and then when we got ready to run, he sat down. I didn't like it. Nobody liked it, and I said something to him in the locker room. He told me 'Expletive, expletive, whatever, whatever.' "

Ray had to say those things. He needs to back up the organization for making that move. Hes now the veteran of the team. He has to "represent".

<<<D>>> · 10-15-2002, 06:28 PM

This fued and hidden issues between Dog and R.Allen really caught me off guard. I guess you'll never know what goes on in the locker rooms. Robinson said a lot of things. It will be intresting how far he can take the Hawks this year, otherwise I'm sure they'll take a huge cut out of his salary if the Hawks don't fulfill the Guarantee they made for their fans

Petey · 10-15-2002, 08:02 PM

Well there is alot of this stuff on star-ladened teams. We all know about the Blazers' chemistry...

-Petey

<<<D>>> · 10-15-2002, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Petey!
Well there is alot of this stuff on star-ladened teams. We all know about the Blazers' chemistry...

-Petey

True, but the Blazers would rather let the public know first, before they take it out behind closed doors

Petey · 10-15-2002, 08:20 PM

They are a very disfunctional team... there was even probs between Kobe and Shaq.

-Petey

<<<D>>> · 10-15-2002, 08:25 PM

Their are many...
How bout that post game smack KMart took out on his teammates for not showing up for the finals. When they made soo far, but the finger pointing begins, stating " they know who they are "

Petey · 10-15-2002, 08:30 PM

Haha, ok for that I lost respect for Martin, he only pulled a Spree (which Spree did on Houston the year before)...

Regardless these are just situations that will appear year after year... it's hard situation, because in all honesty there are families that can't get along, who is to expect these boys to just get along?

-Petey

<<<D>>> · 10-15-2002, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Petey!
Haha, ok for that I lost respect for Martin, he only pulled a Spree (which Spree did on Houston the year before)...

Regardless these are just situations that will appear year after year... it's hard situation, because in all honesty there are families that can't get along, who is to expect these boys to just get along?

-Petey

They're all human beings

deestillballin · 10-15-2002, 09:26 PM

I'm upset with Ray. I mean he didnt have to say that. I hope they just put thier diffrences behind them and let bygons be bygons (sp?) oh well. I still like Ray but he is now on my "I didnt like that comment you made" list

c_dog · 10-16-2002, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Samir87!
Heres your proof, from the article D posted, if you actually read it:

Allen served the first volley toward Robinson on the Bucks' media day, blaming "Big Dog" for the team's bad chemistry, for being a ball-hog and for not working hard in practice.

"Me trying to lead Glenn Robinson wasn't going to happen," Allen said that afternoon. "Last year, there was a situation in training camp where Glenn had just had ankle surgery, and he came and practiced in all the practices, and then when we got ready to run, he sat down. I didn't like it. Nobody liked it, and I said something to him in the locker room. He told me 'Expletive, expletive, whatever, whatever.' "

Yeah, he fought with Big Dog, I believe that, but that isn't trash talking. Big Dog has no proof that Ray talked behind his back.

HBM · 10-17-2002, 06:02 PM

Sometimes in the NBA, there is as much competition in the locker room as there is on the court

**BEEZ** · 10-18-2002, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by c_dog!

Yeah, he fought with Big Dog, I believe that, but that isn't trash talking. Big Dog has no proof that Ray talked behind his back.

If he went to the media and didnt say anything to the big dog personally how is that not going behind his back?????

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