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**sheefo13** · 08-03-2004, 07:40 PM

well, according to SI.com the wolves are talking a sign and trade.

wolves trade:
trenton hassell
wally szczerbiak
michael olowokandi

wolves get:
darius miles
shareef abdur rahim

blazers trade:
darius miles
shareef abdur rahim

blazers get:
trenton hassell
wally szczerbiak
michael olowokandi

trade accepted

honestly, both guys have no experience with the word winning....I like wally better than miles..i wouldnt mind if we took kandi out of the trade then i think it is great. Or if the blazers add a first round pick. Or add the rights to one of their first round picks (likely not telfair, dotn want him anyway). But if the trade looks like this, it is a complete downgrade. The fact That these guys cant define the word WINNING makes it bad for us.

pg-cassell/hudson (wow i hope)/stepp(stud)
sg-sprewell/hoiberg
sf-SAR/miles/ebi
pf-garnett/madsen
c-erv/FA/FA

The scary part is is if we dont get a chris mihm, stro swift, or a dampier then we are as bad as it gets up front.......

your thoughts???

**MJG** · 08-03-2004, 07:46 PM

You can't trade Hassell to the Blazers since he signed their offer sheet already. You have two options: not match and let him go to them as a FA, or match and have him rejoin your team. Choose the latter option, and a rule pops up that prevents the trade from happening. Basically -- he can't be traded to the team he signed the offer sheet with for one full year. Not under any circumstance.

Miles would have to sign a less expensive contract or you'd have to throw in some salary equal to get the trade to work.

Pan Mengtu · 08-03-2004, 07:49 PM

So, you'd complain about getting a legit center? Someone who doesn't make the team worse? It'd be a huge upgrade for the Wolves. Although I wouldn't want to lose both Wally and Hassell, for what you're getting back, it's worth it. Spree can slide over to the second guard spot and start Miles. Miles is a guy who scores more points than Hassell, but won't take a lot of shots away from KG either. He shoots a high percentage. I'd much rather have him than Hassell. And of course, anything is an upgrade when you have kandi and ervin at center.

It's a lot, but it could be enough to put the Wolves over the top.

**sheefo13** · 08-03-2004, 08:08 PM

well i thnk the trade would be keeping hassell there. I am not sure. Then i think they allow us to sign miles to an offer sheet, then we do a trade SAR for wally and kandi. I am not sure if u are saying trading kandi is a good idea or a bad idea??????

anyway, every team that wins a championship has a stud shooter. or a guy that can shoot. Hoiberg wont cut it.

Pan Mengtu · 08-03-2004, 08:16 PM

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anyway, every team that wins a championship has a stud shooter. or a guy that can shoot. Hoiberg wont cut it.

We have this guy named Kevin Garnett.... he can shoot. No one knows about him yet, he's a secret weapon.

**sheefo13** · 08-03-2004, 09:47 PM

a 3 point shooter. billups, bowen, fisher, kerr.............soon to be wally *knocks on wood*

Pan Mengtu · 08-03-2004, 09:54 PM

Sam, Spree, Hudson?

**sheefo13** · 08-03-2004, 11:10 PM

no not gunners, i said shooter

Playmaker0017 · 08-04-2004, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by sheefo13!
honestly, both guys have no experience with the word winning....

That shouldn't matter.

If you look at both of them - neither has had an oppotunity to play on a good team.

Considering Atlanta was Reef's most talented team (not including the Portland fiasco) ... there really isn't much opportunity to win.

Garnett couldn't have made Vancouver win back in the day ... and they were both playing at the same age (remember Garnett is older then Reef).

Miles played well in Portland - his first decent team. I think given a shot he'd be okay. The problem would be ... where would he play?

C = Garnett?
PF = Reef?
SF = Miles?

or
PF = Reef
SF = Garnett

Garnett is SO dang versatile ...

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I like wally better than miles..i wouldnt mind if we took kandi out of the trade then i think it is great. Or if the blazers add a first round pick. Or add the rights to one of their first round picks (likely not telfair, dotn want him anyway). But if the trade looks like this, it is a complete downgrade.

I guess I don't see it that way. I think it will end up being the Twolves kicking in the draft pick.

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The fact That these guys cant define the word WINNING makes it bad for us.

Again ... neither guy has been on a team with even a modicrum of talent.

Play.

Yega1979 · 08-04-2004, 06:33 PM

The trade rumor is Wally and Kandi for SAR.

I think it's a good deal for both sides.

kaniffmn · 08-04-2004, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Yega1979!
The trade rumor is Wally and Kandi for SAR.

I think it's a good deal for both sides.

if that's the case, i would like to see a draft pick thrown in by the blazers.

Playmaker0017 · 08-05-2004, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by kaniffmn!
if that's the case, i would like to see a draft pick thrown in by the blazers.

Chances are - a draft pick would come from the Wolves.

Play.

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